I just ran 50 miles!!! .....again

Yesterday I ran the JFK 50 Mile race for the second time.

In spite of a callipygian incident resulting in falling off a cliff on the Appalachian Trail, I managed to finish again.

Did well, encountered ultimate suffering, stared into the abyss, once again had the layers of unreality stripped away from existence so that I stared at Naked Underlying Reality (N.U.R. for short,) once again truly understood the Great Epiphany of Physical Incarnation (the G.E.P.I. if you will.) Unlike last year I had no hallucinations of note.

I felt pretty bad at mile 27, and then magically got better at mile 30. That lasted for about ten miles, so really, only the last ten miles were unspeakable torture.

I finished under ten hours and ate a pizza. They had unlimited pizza for all finisheres! I had six slices, and drank about a gallon of fluid. On the bus back to my car with about a hundred others I noticed that we were all rather hircismus. I got home and ate a pound of shrimp cocktail, a quart or so of chili, about twenty cookies, six beers and had pizza with friends. I had a whole jalapeno, pepperoni, and onion pizza all to myself. I had six pieces of that.

I had one of thos great sleeps last night, as you can only have when you are completely exhausted, no nightmares or sleepwalking. I woke once, ravenously thirsty in a soaked bed. The same thing had happened last year, but I forgot about it. The days efforts had produced so much fatigue toxins that my body did a “nitrogen dump.” It’s an unusual kind of sweat, all those metabolic byproducts just get pushed out through the poors, like squeezing a soaked sponge.

So, I got up, towelled off, drank a bunch of water and went back to sleep. I got dirty looks from my wife this morning as she changed all the sheets, due to my nocturnal hircine emanations.

This morning I had the two remaining slices for breakfast and have spent the rest of the day as pretty much a human eating machine.

I lost 2 pounds, but if last year’s experience repeats within the next three days the net loss will be about ten pounds no matter how much I eat. Like last year, I’m running about a degree of fever, and will probably do so for the next three or four days. Like the “nitrogen dump” this is also supposedly normal for some people. The effort steps up the metabolism into high gear while it repairs and recuperates from all its been put through.

What is different from last year though is how much better I’ve come through it. Last night, I was fine, and today I’m only slightly sore. My feet swelled up a bit. I feel like I could have gone for a run today. Last year I was a total wreck.

I feel, if not superhuman, at least… semi-mighty.

Good god! Think of your children. I think you are supposed to do those 50 mile runs only once if that. Most of the people on the bus with you probably cheated.

In other news, I started walking during lunch. I am a very fast walker so I can squeeze in 4 miles of so.

Good for you! That’s awesome. It’s amazing how a long run will make you feel.

What was your training like for a 50-mile?

Whose nice ass was it?

Only on the 'Dope would someone else use callipygian in a sentence…

Good work, Scylla! You should be really very proud of yourself. It’s an amazing accomplishment.

I did my first 5K in September, and will do my second this week. I am toying with the idea of entering a 5 mile run in December, but we will see.

My brother (Bill in Frederick) does it every year for over twenty I suppose. This year his knees gave out at 37 miles. Weaverton Cliffs, right?

Outstanding! I did my first marathon about a year ago, but the thought of going twice that distance…shiver - I think I’d rather do an ironman. If I could second the request for how you ramped up to race day?

Yes, I would also like to know what made the incident “callipygian”.

Shagnasty

There’s people that have done it 20 years in a row, as for cheating… I dunno. I did think that I was maybe being passed by some people late in the race that looked rather suspiciously fresh. On the other hand, some people have handlers that bring them changes of clothes. In any case, it really doesn’t effect me. It’s not like I was in danger of winning the race and having the trophy stolen by a cheater.

Thanks. It is kind of amazing to me. I wasn’t kidding about the G.E.P.I and the N.U.R. The very long runs where I strive against my final limits really do change the way I view myself and the universe, and, I feel, give me insight into reality. As time passes, I still remember what I thought, but I don’t really understand it and know these truths as I do during and for a time after a long stare into the abyss.

For example, the N.U.R. fundamental truth (Naked Underlying Reality) is that suffering and pleasure are sides of the same coin. I’ve had a vacation being pampered in a luxury spa, with fine meals and people attending to me in the most pleasant and luxurious ways, and found that it pales quickly. On the other hand, to stumble half dead into an aid station after 38 miles, eat a stale cookie and sip some warm gatorade can be a pleasure approaching unspeakable ecstasy. We are a very pampered people far from the constant suffering of subsistence to which we evolved and very unacquainted with the limits of our endurance. To do this reminds and encounter those limits really creates an appreciation for the luxuries. Anyway, the N.U.R. is that pain and pleasure are relative, which sounds like common sense, but takes on a different meaning and emphasis, at least for me, after running 50 miles at a clip.

The G.E.P.I., or Great Epiphany of Physical Incarnation is that “I,” whatever “I” is, is actually a seperate thing from my body, and the former controls the latter. Once things hurt as bad as possibly can… they don’t get any worse. The epiphany is that through the effort and the pain I learn that my body is nothing more than a pressurized bag of meat and shit. When I understand that, I can make it do whatever I want it to do. Without the mind driving the body in this adversarial relationship, I kind of forget that. When I do understand it, I feel that I am capable of anything. Not things like flying over a building or dodging bullets, but capable of commanding myself to do anything and having my body obey, like a faithful soldier. I say things like that, and people back away, but I think it’s really true. A lot of people are simply slaves to their bodies. They eat whatever their body tells them tastes good, and do or don’t do things based on what their body tells them is ok. They’re not really calling the shots because they’ve never really mastered their own sensations. Hence, they aren’t really in control of themselves, nor are they calling the shots. To understand, you have to get into a fight with your body and win, assert dominance. It’s a lot like training a dog or a horse. You have a mind, but a part of your mind belongs to your body and its instincts. It can rule you… or you can rule it. To me, it seems that if you can rule it there never was a more faithful dog.

::Sheesh:: Look at what I just wrote. I’m kind of embarassed.

Iano and Gridnak:

My training was pretty simple. You need mileage per week, and you need to taper prior to the race.

My usual running maintenance schedule is a run of 5 miles Tuesday through Saturday, 10 miles on Sunday and take Monday off.

To train for the JFK I would keep the weekday schedule and alternate weekends. One weekend I would try to run ten miles Saturday and Sunday. The next weekend I’d take Saturday off and run 15 on Sunday. I’d start that in July, and by Setpember build up to 15 on Saturday, 15 on Sunday one weekend and Saturday off and 20 on Sunday the next weekend. When September rolled around I managed to sneak in two 30 mile runs taking multiple days off before and after.

I tapered back to a maximum run of 5 miles 3 weeks before the Marine Corps Marathon, and 5 miles the week before the Marine Corps Marathon. I ran the Marathon on October 28th and didn’t run more than 10 miles at a time before the JFK.

A large part of the preparation was mental. A marathon you run hard and when your body is done the race is basically over. On the fifty miler I find that I really have to strategize about eating and drinking and thinking about energy management, and just building up the mental endurance to make it through, because at the halfway point it feels like you’ve just finished running a marathon (which you have,) but you’re only halfway done.
dahfisheroo and Rigamarole

I was on the Appalachian trail, and it’s very rocky and you really have to watch your footing. Anyway, I found myself behind this girl who was short and blonde and kind of looked like Heather Locklear (from the TJ Hooker days) and she was wearing these really tight black stretch pants with red zig-zag lightning bolt type things on them, and I kind of took my eyes off the rocks, tripped on one, and fell off a cliff. The funny thing is that the exact same thing happened to the guy in front of me first. After he fell I found myself in next line to get distracted. For all I know several other guys suffered the same fate after me.
GingerOfTheNorth

Thanks. If you’re doing 5ks now, you’ve probably got the bug. Just don’t wear tight stretch pants on trail runs, ok?

Paul in Saudi

My brother (Bill in Frederick) does it every year for over twenty I suppose. This year his knees gave out at 37 miles. Weaverton Cliffs, right?

The really big rest stop is Taylor’s Landing at about mile 38.5. Crap. Sorry about his knees. That’s got to be a huge disapointment.

Congratulations, Scylla. You’re the initial reason I wandered into the 'dope, and it’s nice to see you doing well. I will agree with the NUR and GEPI thoughts.

Ahahahhaaaa! Have you seen my ass? Bwahahahaa! Stretch pants!

Seriously, what do you suggest I wear? Maryland, and winter (as far as it gets here) will be upon us soon. The 5 mile run will be in December and chilly.

Congrats, Scylla. That is an amazing accomplishment. Very impressive indeed.

Thanks too for teaching me a new word today–hircine.

And congratulations!

Link?

In the winter I layer. Underarmour cold gear is very good, but expensive. You can buy the tights, tops and bottoms for $65, each. Unless you want to look like a superhero though, you better layer over them.

A good cheap solution is warm up pants. I ran two winters and 100s of miles in a $9.00 pair of warmup pants. You want the kind made of nylon, or rayon not sweats. If you sweat into sweats, you’ll freeze when it’s cold. You might also invest in a good pair of winter running pants. They’ll last a long time and keep you running outside longer into winter and earlier into spring.

I’ll also recommend several layers of long sleeved shirts. You definately want to stay away from cotton. Rangers call it “death cloth.” Once you sweat, or it gets wet, it loses all of its insulating properties. Place a windbreaker type shell over that. Gloves and a hat are essential, as you lose a good percentage of your heat from that.

The good thing about layering the shell and the long sleeved shirts is that if you heat up, or decide you’re wearing too much, you can just peel off a layer and tie it around your waist.

If it’s very cold add a fleece immediately under the shell.

Here’s where the good stuff is.

The cold gear, sub zero gear, mocks and jackets are top notch. A lot of mine is on it’s third winter. Some of it must have over 1000 miles on it, and it’s all held up very well.

Treat yourself. It’s economical when you consider how durable it is, and how much use you’ll get out of it.

Last thing. I won’t run except in underarmour socks. Everything else seems to beat up my feet after a long distance.

Oooh, Really last thing. Underarmour is made out of kind of weird fabrics in layers that are bonded together. Some of those layers pull moisture away. Other layers attract it. The net result is that it keeps you very comfortable. There is a side effect though.

Do not use a lot of soap when you wash them. Or, if you do, wash them a second time without soap. The fabric seems to hold onto detergent. Then, if you run in the rain, or you sweat a lot you’ll find that you’re beginning to foam from the crotch and armpits… which can attract some looks.

That’s an important tip.

Thanks, but I can’t take the credit .

50 miles?! Wow. Just wow.

You, mate, are totally nuts. :smiley:

When I was younger I was changing for swim class. There was a woman changing beside me that had the best body I had ever seen outside of a magazine.

I tried not to stare, but had to ask, “Excuse me but I can’t help but notice what incredible shape you are in. What do you do for training?”

Her response?

“I weight train a little, but run almost every day and have for the past five years.”

She was my personal inspiration to running.

Until now.

Scylla, I started a running course a few weeks ago, and although I am starting off slow (I had shin splints during basic and don’t want them again) I can’t wait until my first race - January 1st - 7K, resolution run.

Thanks for the inspiration, and the giggles.

When I am fit I will buy tight running pants with lightning bolts and think of you :slight_smile:

My pleasure. Any help I can offer would be a pleasure.

I could have been killed. It’s important to remember to use your callipygian powers always for good and never for evil.

Scylla, thanks for the info, and check your in-box for your board address.