I know its not cancer but FUCK big pharma for not curing Restless Leg Syndrome...FUCK!

[Jackmannii]

@Dave_Hartwick

I’d also like to observe that asking questions is not always JAQ. I’m aware of how annoying JAQ can be, but you and I will not be correct if our immediate response to questions on certain topics is ridicule.

Raising a ludicrous and offensive proposition and then trying to deflect heat with “gee, I’m only asking questions” is a hallmark of the JAQ species, seen with depressing frequency on message boards and in comments sections of online articles (our definition of what constitutes “ridicule” must also differ radically).

Further, if the person really is JAQ, that person is a conspiracist and in my understanding there is very little hope of dissuading conspiracists. Ridiculing them will not change their minds and may make the skeptic look like a bully, thereby raising sympathy for the crackpot, so it is counterproductive to do so.

JAQoffs are not necessarily conspiracy theorists (although the two overlap to some extent). The tactic is simply a dishonest way to push a firmly held belief under the pretense that the person is undecided so don’t pick on poor little me.

Such folks are rarely if ever amenable to having their minds changed by logic (including that which I and others presented here and which you interpreted as ridicule). If one is determined to believe garbage because someone on the Internet was mean to them, they were hopeless to begin with. Those on the fence are another story (and they are also extremely unlikely to ignore cogent arguments on the grounds that someone presenting them wasn’t being nice enough.*

*in addition to JAQers, a common species encountered in online discussions is the person who ignores a long sequence of well-thought out responses on a topic to hone in on one in which sarcasm or insults are employed, announcing that oooh, your side is just turning off people because you’re all such meanies. Such a person is a concern troll (or its variant, the tone troll).

[Girlundone]

And while you’re busy putting others in these little wiki boxes you’ve discovered, others can continue having some meaningful dialogue about why there seems to be some mistrust of the drug companies.

Run along now, you’ve got lots of categorizing to do.

[Shodan]

Thanks to those who were able effectively convey that information to me. The rest of you are just stupid assholes that like to hear yourselves talk and you should shut your dicksuckers.

Can’t we be both, like the late Earl Warren?

The thread wasn’t complete without a Simpsons quote.

Regards,
Shodan (Charter Member of the second category)

[Jackmannii]

@Girlundone

And while you’re busy putting others in these little wiki boxes you’ve discovered, others can continue having some meaningful dialogue about why there seems to be some mistrust of the drug companies.

Any time you’d like to contribute something apart from wondering if They are suppressing cures, a lovely meaningful dialogue can ensue.

It’s nice that you describe having attained greater understanding of how drug research works. People tend to cling tightly to the belief that They Don’t Want You To Know. Possibly you’ll be the exception. :dubious:

[Hbns]

Fuck RLS, let’s talk about how the author’s of the last hundred posts or so could use some good ADHD meds to stay on topic.

[Girlundone]

People tend to cling tightly to the belief that They Don’t Want You To Know.

By “people” I’m assuming you mean anyone, ever, anywhere who’s inquired about the practices of drug companies or indicated that drug companies are sometimes perceived as shady. The most effective way to change people’s minds is to dismiss them all as stupid fucks, JAQs, trolls, or conspiracists.

[Wesley_Clark]

@adaher

Heh. Fair enough. Casts, too, but all that does is allow your body to heal naturally.

That is my impression. Many infectious diseases can be cured, malnutrition can be cured and some anatomical conditions which can be rectified with surgery can be cured, the rest of illnesses can only be managed or have the symptoms controlled.

Western medicine is only about 150 years old though, that is 2 human lifespans. Give it another 100 years. Too bad we will all be dead then, but at least our great grandkids will experience great medicine.

[Not_Carlson]

Stoid, have you tried Neupro (rotigotine)? It was approved in the US last year.

(For all I know you may have wandered off and abandoned this thread to those debating the merits and evils of the pharmaceutical industry, but I thought I’d put this out there anyway in case it’s useful to you or anyone else reading.
I actually have a minor position in the industry myself, but damned if I’m getting stuck in that arguement.)

[Jackmannii]

@Wesley_Clark

That is my impression. Many infectious diseases can be cured, malnutrition can be cured and some anatomical conditions which can be rectified with surgery can be cured, the rest of illnesses can only be managed or have the symptoms controlled.

As noted before, many cancers can be cured with today’s medicine, including solid tumors if caught in time and removed surgically, numerous hematologic cancers including lymphomas and some leukemias and germ cell tumors which are curable through medication and/or bone marrow transplantation.

@Girlundone

By “people” I’m assuming you mean anyone, ever, anywhere who’s inquired about the practices of drug companies or indicated that drug companies are sometimes perceived as shady.

You know better than this. Questioning some drug company practices is entirely reasonable; concluding that they’re suppressing cures for disease is ignorant and unjustifiable.

I just saw a spam ad on another website promising to reveal a “weird nutrient” that Big Pharma is trying to patent, which supposedly cures a host of diseases. No doubt by patenting this “weird nutrient” Big Pharma hopes to prevent the general public from obtaining it (whatever it is - vitamin C? Acai berry extract?) and curing arthritis, heart disease and cancer at home in their spare time. Big Pharma does bad things, so obviously this is a believable proposition and only Meanies could question it. :dubious:

[Girlundone]

I don’t think anyone “concluded” that here, Jackmannii.

Do you think people who might question drug companies practices, would then automatically fall into the category of endorsing the weird nutrient spam ad? I don’t even know what the fuck you’re talking about at this point. Shocked and dismayed defensive righteousness doesn’t look good on anyone. But if you want to keep crankin’ your own wanker, then of course that is your right. I don’t perceive you as a “meanie” at all. Quite the contrary, you appear rather bumbling to me.

[Qadgop_the_Mercotan]

@Girlundone

I don’t perceive you as a “meanie” at all. Quite the contrary, you appear rather bumbling to me.

It is fine to question authority, but when authority answers, one should also listen. Our good pathologist has been posting reasoned, factual, evidence based science here for over a decade, while battling ignorance. Referring to him as “bumbling” adds nothing to your own credibility, and only serves to demonstrate that Ignorance fights back.

[Wesley_Clark]

@Jackmannii

As noted before, many cancers can be cured with today’s medicine, including solid tumors if caught in time and removed surgically, numerous hematologic cancers including lymphomas and some leukemias and germ cell tumors which are curable through medication and/or bone marrow transplantation.

Thats good to know. I was under the impression most cancers could only be managed, not totally cured.

[Girlundone]

It is fine to question authority, but when authority answers, one should also listen. Our good pathologist has been posting reasoned, factual, evidence based science here for over a decade, while battling ignorance. Referring to him as “bumbling” adds nothing to your own credibility, and only serves to demonstrate that Ignorance fights back.

yawn

[Not_Carlson]

(People with knowledge and experience):
(Reasoned words of wisdom.)

@Girlundone

yawn

What a rude and foolish child you are.

[Rick]

@Not_Carlson

What a rude and foolish child you are.

Why listen to some old person with knowledge, training, and experience? I read something on the Internet so it must be true.
:::yawn:::

[Shayna]

Klonopin/[other-uses"]Clonazepam](Clonazepam: MedlinePlus Drug Information) helps me.

Clonazepam is also used to treat symptoms of akathisia (restlessness and a need for constant movement) …

Hope you can find something that works for you. It’s a miserable condition to have to suffer with.

[Fiveyearlurker]

@Girlundone

yawn

Ignorant and unpleasant.

[Tibby]

*Oh, woe is me, I’ve got legs that are a little twitchy…

Oh, shiver me timbers, I’ve got a paper cut on my pinkie finger…

Oh, boo hoo, I’ve got Stage-4 pancreatic cancer…

…why aren’t those mean R&D Pharma guys trying to find a cure for my “problem”??? Waaaa!
*
Yeah, sure, even those bleeding heart eggheads championing the microcephalics are on the bandwagon, looking for research funds so their charity cases can grow bigger heads. But, seriously, don’t you think the brains of those afflicted with microcephalaly are too small to truly comprehend their own plight? Dumb & happy is better than smart & miserable, I say. Don’t seek a solution to something that’s not perceived as a problem—put the money where it’s needed and appreciated most.

The people who truly do need funding to find a cure for their affliction are not the twitchy leg people or the microcephalics, but the microphallics. Microphallicism is a devastating condition that affects trillions of men throughout the known universe, and perhaps beyond. And, no, I do not suffer from this particular malady, myself. In fact, I’m uber-significantly on the “macro” side on the pecker spectrum.

But, I do witness on a regular basis, the torment suffered by those afflicted souls—people with names like Biff, Chip, Lil’ Dickie and Wei Dong. My buddy, Leroy, and I point and laugh at those poor fellows all the time in the locker room, while we snap our towels at their buttocks. Before you know it, everyone in the locker room not afflicted with microphallicism is getting in on the act, much my consternation. It’s not our fault, we don’t like to do it, it’s just something people like us are compelled to do to people like them. Help us; help them; donate to this just cause.

Valid Excuse: I’m writing today under the assumption that this is National Non-PC Day; A little comic levity, nothing more; I’m all for funding R&D for medical problems, including RLS.

[levdrakon]

I find knuckle massaging my gluts/sciatic area helps tone it down. A friend turned me on to that years ago. I pretty much yelped when he hit some sore and tight spots I wasn’t even aware of.

[Girlundone]

Why listen to some old person with knowledge, training, and experience? I read something on the Internet so it must be true.

I already acknowledged that I have learned things in this thread from those posters who addressed me respectfully. I am not going to give respectful replies to someone who accuses me of things I have not done. I did not take issue with jackmannii’s level of knowledge, not once. I take issue with his douchbaggery.

Enjoy your circle jerk, guys.