What the fuck has “special snowflakes” got to do with anything? Are you projecting about something? Was it suggested that I was crying into my cornflakes about getting some weird friend request?
Its simply strange for anybody to act in that manner, sending out random friend requests as if normal people have any interest in being “friends” with some losers on the internet. Its not behaviour I’ve seen from any moderator on any message board I’ve ever used and as such, its weird. Or creepy. Or sexual, whatever descriptor you prefer is fine by me.
Don’t you know? It’s fashionable today that if someone is bothered by something they don’t think you should be bothered by, you get minimized and dismissed as a crybaby or special snowflake. Because there is no way other people have different feelings and sensitivities that are legit in their own right.
It can’t be that important because if it was then there would be a checkbox that says none of these morons should have that power. Voting for the best of the worst isn’t palpable to me and I refuse to do so.
I understand where Idle is coming from, though. Most politics is boring being just another form of ‘drama’ for the most part, which I detest, and i find myself ignoring things that don’t interest me as I age. Also, many of the ‘solutions’ that are proposed to political problems never address, or attempt to find (or simply ignore) the root cause of whatever the problem is, and this annoys me to no end as being wasteful and inefficient. So, better to ignore it rather than be continually upset by it.
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What I find interesting is, you seem to completely ignore a huge, glaring fact, which is that the US is not today “as it has been all this time.” Ask a woman or a black American, for starters.
You know WHY it’s not today “as it has been all this time”? Because some people vote.
Part of the beauty of America is that you can vote or not as you choose. It seems you’re glad to have that privilege, along with your first amendment rights. Presumably you wouldn’t have bothered starting this thread unless you actively desired replies. Perhaps you enjoy the attention a nonvoter is guaranteed to get right now, immediately following a contentious election, especially if they announce not just that they don’t vote but that they “never” will.
Another curious thing to me is that you saw a reason to add the “never” part. From here it looks like a hedge against getting too few replies or ones that would not fully engage you, rather only insult or dismiss what you say. That one little word, “never,” somehow makes some people want to try and move you off your mark and persuade you as to the folly of your ways. I reckon you figured that’d be the case. I would love to know more about your background. I don’t think the reason you don’t vote (and “never” will, heh!) has so much to do with politics. People. Takes all kinds!
Me, I have no wish to persuade you to vote. Just wanted to make the above observation about that weird “as it has been all this time” remark.
Well I don’t post very often, and I stopped reading at about post 25, but please answer me this:
If you don’t care about voting why do bother be a Mod here? It seems incongruent.
You say you don’t pay taxes, that leads to all sorts of what ifs. Do you avoid jury duty too? Do you have a driver’s license? Are you a Sovereign Citizen? An Anarchist?
I really don’t think the county is going to hell either, regardlass Trump or Hillary being elected, and you are right that the asshat in chief, whoever that is, makes little difference in my day to day life. Congress and the scoutus should be good checks on that. Except:
If congress hadn’t been for the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, 1st Gulf war, Iraq II, etc. they wouldn’t have happened. My congresscritters and senators at those times were all “progressive liberal Democrats” except Wayne Morse and they all voted in agreement all of those.
I am very involved in the senatorial and congressional votes in my state. Quite a few local issues I care about were decided by less than 50 votes and some by a couple of hundred. My county commission race has still not been decided. It could come down to 1 or 2 votes. This could affect my taxes, my roads, my schools. One idiot wants to cut the Sheriff’s budget so the tweekers, burglars, and wife beaters can be cut loose from the county jail as “Non violent offenders.”
Personally, I’m glad you don’t vote because you would probably vote for morons anyway.
Again, I am truly interested why some one with your level of indifference would bother to spend the time and effort to be a Mod.
Voting for the sake of voting is no virtue. Voting for self-interest is less than a virtue. Voting along partisan or ideological lines for the mere sake of loyalty is contemptible.
Voting without knowledge is like shooting a gun without training - you may hurt somebody you never meant to hurt. Often yourself.
The OP is not being completely truthful. He did vote, and he voted for Trump. Anyone who stayed home and did not vote, that was a vote for Trump. Anyone who voted for Johnson or Stein, that was a vote for Trump. I hold every single one of these voters and nonvoters in partial blame for Trump’s victory. True, Hillary flubbed it herself to a certain extent, but these people all share the blame too including the OP.
Blame all you like but saying he’s the one being untruthful is the untruthful bit. It’s rhetorical bullshit. A vote for Trump is a vote for Trump. Abstaining is abstaining.
This statement has made me decide not to post what was going to be the most hateful, enraged, profanity-streaked rant I have ever posted on this board or any other. Your attitude up till Trump’s victory was truly beneath contempt. I am glad the political upset got your attention, though because of your apathy combined with that of millions, many many people will die. I have no doubt that the average apathetic non-voter didn’t WANT a cruel fascist to be installed in power, but they certainly allowed it to happen. You own a small share of it – you, personally.
Not being interested in politics equals not being interested in your fellow citizens, period. It’s this basic lack of empathy, which you lazily disguised as “not interested in politics,” that is truly disgusting.
Your qualifier “probably” indicates you have a very long way to go. I hope you resign as moderator; this board deserves much better, and you should spend the extra minutes each day trying to give one small shit about anyone other than yourself.
For the others commenting here… Colin Kaepernick has also indicated he doesn’t vote. His reasons are not general apathy, but (according to him) a belief that voting will not change the systemic racism in the country.
How much, if any, of the vitriol directed at Idle Thoughts does Kaepernick also deserve?
For myself (and I’d argue the descriptor “vitriol”) that my frustration came from:
The initial attitude of “that’s my opinion and nothing will change it”
His non-vote was not protest or lack of information (so he felt he couldn’t make a good decision).
He couldn’t see how “politics” does affect people’s lives, himself included.
IOW, his choice comes from a position of willful lack of information.
I can’t speak to Colin K decision as thoroughly, but it seems to me to be more protest coupled with personal experience. I think he’s wrong, but I see where he’s coming from. If I was discussing it with him, and he kept saying “nope, doesn’t matter” with every point, I’d be frustrated too.
You surely agree that in the thread vitriol existed and was directed against Idle Thoughts, yes? I think (and hope!) that this aside is intended to signal that your own posts were vitriol-free, yes?
I meant for me, personally. I expressed anger and frustration, but not vitriol. But I’m not going to a post by post gotcha game to determine if this word or that rises to the level of vitriol, which is inherently subjective. Does my rejecting your label for myself, discount what else I wrote in my response to you?
Y’know, your question seemed like another gotcha game, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt. Never mind, I’m not inclined to engage in that game playing.
I don’t know about vitriol, but I’d criticize Kaepernick for not voting, since there are indeed candidates with different stances on how to address systemic racism.
A non-vote is a non-vote. Period. It’s not a vote for whatever side you’re against. If you’d been a Trump supporter, would his non-vote have been for Hillary? Or do non-votes only go to Republicans?
Try again, and use your brain, don’t just spew jargon.
FWIW, I think so. Kaepernick just showed himself to be an ass and not someone who needs to be part of any national dialogue on anything other than being a pompous douche.