I made a small mistake, which led to a bigger mistake and I profit by it.

I’ve only been there a few months and although I could do payroll, the girl before me could not, that’s why it’s with ADP. We’ve discussed my bringing it back in house, but I don’t want to do that until I know I’m going to stay.

I do feel bad about the whole thing, but no way in hell do I owe that money back. I made a dating error and fixed it (or so I thought) four days before the second posting. ADP maybe should pay more than the $200.00 credit they are giving us, but I don’t feel responsible for paying the money back to the boss. I did try more than once to return my bonus, but he doesn’t want it. The total is about $8000.00. And I could have had it reversed within an hour of the posting and he chose not to do it.

I wasn’t even there yet when the error was discovered, so I don’t really know how much talking about it was going on. I was told someone thanked him, but I don’t really have the details.

Nothing changed today. One of the four talked to me about it and expressed how unfair she finds it, but she didn’t take it any further.

Why would anyone not have direct deposit? You get your money faster, don’t have to go to the bank in person, and sometimes even get a double bonus. What’s the downside?

Some people don’t have bank/chequing accounts. I see them on Judge Judy all the time. :slight_smile:

The one person that talked to me about it said she can’t get an account. She lives so close to the bone that the service charges make her unable to make her rent.

You can bet I’ll be more careful with dates in the future.

It costs money to open a bank account, a few hundred usually. And if you don’t keep a minimum balance there’s a monthly service charge.

I used to be a payroll clerk. I hated ADP. They made tons of errors, but the worst was when they processed one payroll batch twice. Oops. Their solution was the same as the OPer’s: to run a reversal. Through that experience, I learned that: a) most people are perfectly reasonable; b) some people are slightly irrational; and c) a few people are freaking nuts.

One man, a fireman name Ron, was the worst. He just could not wrap his head around the fact that the net impact to him was ZERO. He considered that extra money HIS, as evidenced by the bank statement that he kept waving in my face that PROVED that it was his money, and he wasn’t going to agree to the reversal. No amount of reasoning would get him to understand that no one was stealing ANYTHING from him, and that in the end, he would have the exact same amount of money he would have had, had no error been made.

(This was the same fellow who blamed me because he owed several thousands of dollars in taxes. He accused me of not taking out enough taxes, even though I had entered the exact information he filled out on his W4. Like many firemen, he held a second job and didn’t grasp the implications of a graduated tax structure on $80k + $20k earned separately vs. $100k earned at one place.)

I predict that the bad taste from the way the boss handled this is going to linger for a long time. Those bonuses were substantial.

I only worked one place where we got bonuses. At Christmas, we got a gift certificate to a local grocery store for a turkey. Whoopee.

My bank doesn’t charge a service charge if you have a direct deposit into your account at least once per statement period. So if you would have your paycheck directly deposited to your account, it’s essentially free. I don’t have to keep a minimum balance. So, even if I’m close to the bone at the end of the month, there’s still no service charge.

If you have a history of bouncing checks, it can also make it difficult for you to get a checking account. So through poverty and poorly-timed check-clearing, or through irresponsibility, that’s another way that you can screw yourself over in that respect.

That’s a dude who sounds like he really, truly doesn’t understand finances at all.

I hate doing payroll - you really learn about your co-workers then. Your assessment of people is spot on. My biggest frustration with payroll was the people who could never manage to get their hours right or in on time, and management expecting payroll to always accommodate them, instead of these people getting their shit together for something that they knew they had to do, same time, every week.

I agree. If that had happened to me, I would feel like the company did not value me as much as the double bonus people, and plan accordingly.

That’s great.
Ours does.
We had to scrape together $300 to open it.

My bank charges $15.00 a month unless you have a $5000.00 minimum.

So my boss had me pick up some gift cards at a local grocery for those employees today and I gave them out before we left on our holiday break. Everyone was very grateful and hopefully, this is the last I’ll hear of it.

Or a joint account-holder can screw you over by doing the same thing even when you don’t benefit from it.