LHOD asked about “prominent progressive thinkers”. I think the “prominent” part is the more important here.
If I say “MAGAs believe the Jews control the weather with space lasers” and am challenged to cite a “prominent MAGA thinker” who believes that, I think “Marjorie Taylor Greene” is a legitimate response, even though in almost any other context I wouldn’t be likely to describe MTG as a “thinker”.
Not looking for academic philosophers here, but people who have a public voice that some nontrivial number of people take seriously.
Douchebag, you don’t get to lay off the rofls for a hot second and think I forget. You’re a toxic shitbag who won’t stay civil for the length of a Drake track.
You halfwit, you’re calling me out when I’m perfectly sincere, because you’re too busy tonguing yourself to notice sincerity. There’s zero chance that your arrogant fuckery will ever allow you to hold a rational conversation. My error has not been in “faux civility,” but in repeatedly running at the football you hold because I think this time you’ll not pull it away.
If your ideas are so universally misunderstood and misused, then there is likely a problem with those ideas.
I wonder if it’s genuinely less visible to you because you’re a white cishet etc man? There’s no group you can get away with dumping on, except maybe the rich.
If I point at what such a person says, you’ll say I misunderstood. If I try to give examples of how it works in practice, you’ll say I’m nut picking and ask for 20 more examples, or say that the privileged group actually is worse and deserves it. It’s not very worthwhile from my perspective.
Yes, despite the fact I’ve never heard of him, if he has 3 million followers, that would be a good answer! But the wikipedia page you linked just describes him as a guy who identifies as a liberal and debates MAGAts on YouTube, and doesn’t go into any detail about his thoughts about the “pyramid of oppression” or anything else. His own home page is just a bunch of links to Instagram videos. Cite that he holds stupid opinions on this subject?
(To be clear, identifying certain groups in society as being more oppressed than others is obviously just acknowledging reality. I only consider it stupid if someone is arguing that individuals in everyday life should be deferred to or ignored depending on their places on the “pyramid”. I’ll also count excessive preoccupation with defining some group’s exact place on the “pyramid” as being stupid.)
If you were being sincere, then you’re too ideologically captured to have a reasonable discussion.
You can deny it all you want, but the example I have wasn’t some fringe thing. This is the dominant form of progressivism that young people are exposed to, and it’s completely ineffective at appealing to them or even at preventing them from being captured by right wing ideology.
If you don’t want to talk about it, we don’t have to. But if you’re going to pretend I’m a bad faith liar for bringing it up, I’m going to call you out on it. Sorry, not sorry.
