I Pit Babale

You know what, I stand by my larger point that the TikTok crowd doesn’t ever provide concise summaries of anything, but I’m being a little unfair in the specifics here.

It’s true that these content creators aren’t providing a succinct summary of what the microaggressions were, BUT in context, that’s because their audience was screaming at them for days to respond by that point. The people they’re talking to already know about the allegations and were already angry; they didn’t need it explained.

Holy fucking shit dude, you really DO have the memory of a goldfish. I’m factitiously alluding to the very post above yours, the same post you were responding to when I responded to you:

Here’s a thought: When she literally says “Yeah, I didn’t mean anyone literally believes in an oppression pyramid.” you might want to refrain from using the stupid term.

Yeah, I didn’t mean it glibly either. If I have to sit through a bunch of rambling livestreams to be in touch, then I’m just going to be out of touch.

I mean, I literally said:

Fair enough. Maybe someone will write an article about this eventually.

If that’s true (and I haven’t seen any actual statistics about what the “average person” thinks of intersectionallism, though I suspect many actual replies would show they think it’s got something to do with automotive traffic flow): I strongly suspect it’s because people who want to use divide-and-conquer tactics keep telling people that what it means is that it’s socially acceptable to criticise and blame some groups but not others.

That’s not what the meme is about. It’s about how surface politeness is sometimes used as a cover for terrible arguments; and about how the underlying behavior is often not polite at all.

Do you think that showing up uninvited inside somebody’s house to insist on carrying on an argument is polite behavior? Because that’s what the sealion in the original meme is doing – while claiming to be polite.

He’s been asked to provide text links, by people unwilling to sit through videos.

A clip, by its nature, is always going to be out of context.

What do Deaf people do, if they want to be part of this TikTok crowd that apparently everybody in that age group is part of? Are there no transcripts available? Even for conversations among people who take microaggressions and intersectionality seriously?

They can have closed captions, which helps Deaf people, but that doesn’t make them any quicker to get through.

Ah. That makes sense.

If I ever see anyone do that, I’ll accept that sealioning is a real thing. :smiley:

Because what I’m seeing is people showing up on the debate forum of a message board, and getting accused of sealioning because they aren’t being rude assholes.

Forgive me, Zoomers (well, people Zoomers are fans of), for I have underestimated you! One of the creators involved DID write an article. Or even two.

Disclaimer, I don’t know who this guy is and I haven’t seen prior content from him, but I gather he is one of the left leaning creators who were invited on the tour.

This made me cry a little:

Emphasis mine.

In the first article, he described the video call itself, and the immediate (non)reaction.

In the second article, he shows how public pressure made all the creators turn on Zee.

And here’s his conclusion:

Here’s this guy’s summary of the microaggressions (but note, unlike Dean he broke with the other creators and decided this wasn’t enough to cancel someone over):

And finally - some fun comments from the article:

Some quotes from the article:

Naturally the first couple of comments are accusing the author of racism. :roll_eyes:

You’d have to ask some young deaf people; I have no idea.

Also they are usually AI generated captions with some stupid errors. A common one - almost every video that mentions Hasan has the captions calling him “His son”.

Thank you (and Babale for posting the same link), that’s helpful.

Curious-Who wrote these articles?

Oh, I almost forgot!

There’s an even more annoying trend than shitty auto generated closed captions, and that’s when they put captions into the video, but they do this dumb thing where ONLY ONE WORD shows up on screen at a time.

Through my mastery over both space and time, I responded before you asked the question:

Here’s his channel - looks like he’s a smaller creator, with just over a quarter of a million followers.

His tagline is:

He’s also on YouTube, in case anyone without Tiktok (ie all of us) wants to watch his videos:

(Damn, linking’s such a bitch on my phone.)

He only has one video on YouTube, that’s not really an active channel.

He does appear to actively post to Instagram (reels?) but only has 33k followers there.

Ignore me, I’m dumb. He only has one YouTube video but he has plenty of YouTube shorts.