I Pit Babale

I had forgotten about this. I used to think it was the other way around: right-wingers had a good grasp on what the left believe, while left-wingers were largely ignorant about people and ideas on the right, and most of their beliefs about them were strawmen. Then Elon bought Twitter and I realised I had only been seeing the smart conservatives. :rofl:

So, in general left-of-centre media is more factually accurate, and often tries (but fails) to be unbiased. Due to education polarisation, people on the left tend to be better informed in general: we can see that even formerly left-wing or bi-partisan conspiracies like anti-vaxx have switched to mostly being embraced by the right. Right-wing media tends to be both more openly biased (further from the centre) and lower quality - lower brow and less factually accurate.

Why is media that aspires to be mainstream and unbiased nevertheless tilted to the left? Because the pipeline that used to exist of local media to national media is dead. The model for getting into journalism now is going to a top university and then accepting an unpaid or low paid internship - while living in a super-expensive city; such people are overwhelmingly left of centre in their politics.

But it is biased, both in what stories it reports, and how it frames them. I think people on the right are still pretty well informed about what the mainstream media is saying; they just don’t believe any of it. Which is unfortunate on the whole, since as I said, it’s more factually accurate. On the other hand, stories that draw a lot of attention on the right are often largely ignored in more liberal forums. Does that mean you never heard them? I don’t know.

You sound like you’re about to give us a promo code for a subscription to Ground News :rofl: but there’s a reason that service exists/is pitched that way - it’s describing a real phenomenon.

He’s now come in to the Papal Conclave thread with SovCit bullshit.

So, an American who accepts a landed title of nobility is considered to have given up their US citizenship, right?
And the Pope is the head of state of the Vatican City, does that count as a noble title?
Will the new pope have to renounce US citizenship?

No Dumbfuck. The Titles of Nobility Amendment was never ratified.
Use that argument to disqualify the Judge when you claim you are traveling in a conveyance and not driving a motor vehicle.

Holy shit, that level of hostility is entirely unwarranted.

I mixed up this bit of the constitution with the unratified amendment that I half remembered:

I have no idea what any of this has to do with sovereign citizens.

Who shat in your cornflakes this morning, @Saint_Cad?

Great job on double checking your facts before posting. Oh wait, horrible job doing that thing you didn’t do.

SovDipshits claim lawyers that use “Esquire” have received a foreign title and therefore lost their citizenship and therefore cannot be a prosecuting attorney or judge.

You. In the thread.

ETA:

Just fuck off already. You were absolutely 100% factually wrong and when you get called out on it and corrected then you make it like YOU are the victim. Beck recently got noted and warned for making a thread about her and what you just did was worse than she has ever done.

I’m so sorry that my tongue in cheek joke was inaccurate.

That sounds incredibly stupid, so par for the course for Sovereign Citizens.

Ok, bud.

WTF? Those posts in the new pope thread were completely innocuous. You’re just being an asshole here for no reason.

Your right. Nobody beats being Hitler than Hitler himself!

Well, I read it differently. I just mod-noted him for his response to Saint_Cad.

I’m referring to the post Saint_Cad called out as “sovcit bullshit,” not the subsequent responses.

Got ya. I didn’t see anything wrong with that particular Babale post, either.

The content of the post you flagged should have gone here, not there. My bad.

The use of TONA is often used by SovCits to invalidate someone’s position in the judicial process. I have never heard it used outside of that context or another SC batshittery.

One good thing about Hitler is he killed Hitler.

Difference being maybe I am an asshole, but at least I’m an asshole in the Pit.

All I know about SovCits is that they either like it or don’t like it when there’s a gold flange on a flag (I can’t remember which) and that they’re obsessed with the law of the sea.

If you’ve frequently encountered the Title of Nobility Act in the context of sovereign citizens, you may be consuming too much sovereign citizen content.

I have no idea where I came across the idea that US citizens aren’t supposed to take noble titles - maybe in a Harry Turtledove alt Hist novel where they did implement such a law, and I forgot that this was part of the ALTERNATE history.

Thank you for recognizing this.

Yeah but not what I said is it. I never said I frequently encounter it. I said that when I do, it is only is the context of SovCit non-logic. So I don’t think I’ll take your advice as it is built on a faulty premise.

I was also under the impression that there was some law about US citizens having foreign titles, which I half-remembered from first bit of Tom Clancy’s Patriot Games, which I read circa 1995.

I dare you to find a more iron-clad cite than that.

Are you sure that’s the reason you had this memory, and it’s not because you’re a Sovereign Citizen without even knowing it?

I did recently sew gold fringe on all my underwear, so that my pants are now governed by maritime law, but I don’t think that’s related.

YoU’rE fUnNy.