If you aren’t familiar with 4-H, it is an elective agricultural club mostly found in rural communities that teaches kids about things like raising livestock and other general how-to knowledge. You go to meetings a couple of hours a month in school and raise livestock on your own to show in fairs for prizes about the quality of them. They could be pet rabbits or beef cattle or even soybeans. In my experience, it makes the Boy Scouts look like a bunch a hedonistic hooligans in comparison.
What the ever living fuck is wrong with CNN? You just picked on a bunch of elementary school farm girls for raising fancy chickens for eggs calling them desensitized killers? How can anyone possibly defend that in a mainstream news source.
This one is enough to make even the make even the most progressive and liberal doper vomit. It advocates making a new constitution using social networking tools like Facebook to write a new one in real time. Iceland is doing it, why can’t we? Well, despite the millions of factual reasons that can’t be done and the poor grasp of history the author seems to have despite being a 4th grade graduate, it may be just a piss poor idea to begin with.
Have you read what most people really think on social networking sites? This isn’t really a topic suitable for online polls. We could end up with Christianity as the official religion, constitutional bans on baggy pants, and the death penalty for drivers that won’t get out of our way yet still have no functional system of government which the constitution is actually for.
CNN is known for being less than conservative but I always trusted until now. I think I will go to the National Enquirer for real information now.
Yeah but Bessie the cow will probably be made into hamburger eventually.
I don’t know if ole kooky Ted is a vegetarian or not but it wouldn’t surprise me.
Ted is the owner of the largest bison herd in the world and owns a restaurant chain to try to popularize the meat, Ted’s Montana Grill. While he could be vegetarian despite this, odds are he enjoys meat.
As for CNN, Ted’s been out of the loop for about the past 5 years. If I lost 1/10,000th of the money he lost on the Time Warner merger, I’d be stark raving mad, in a room with soft walls and a jacket with extra-long sleeves.
Eh? No, sir, the one about revising the Constitution is not a stupid story. Not even a stupid idea, for that matter. (Hint: The final draft would not actually be C&P’d from Twitters.)
Did I ever mention how dumb I think you are overall? I would have to copy and paste millions of news stories to match your record. I added commentary to some exceptional ones that I chose. Would do you have to add? Feel threatened much by someone intruding on your proprietary posting style? Throw down the gloves bitch and tell us more about your constitutional changes or do you just want to continue the pussy jeer from the bleachers?
Ted’s Montana Grill makes a damn fine burger, and one of the few places I could get it medium rare. At least until I went vegetarian a few years ago; I suppose they could’ve changed their policy since.
Anyway. This is pretty weak sauce—the first link isn’t even a story, it’s more like “Hey, we interviewed someone from 4H and got a lot of spirited website comments. Here’s a selection!”. And the second link, although silly, doesn’t "advocate making a new constitution using social networking tools like Facebook to write a new one in real time”; it advocates the use of social media to make amendment suggestions. A rather less radical suggestion.
No, sir, the one about revising the Constitution is a stupid story. I agree the constitution needs revising but “using social networking tools like Facebook to write a new one in real time” is a stupid idea.
Completely true. I hear lots of dumb things every day like most people do. However, I don’t run an international news organization that millions of people see. If I did, I think I would have some responsibility not to show whatever trash people want to write about especially about about the 4-H club. Millions of people x a few seconds a piece adds up to a lot of degenerated brain cells. Some of them might even take it seriously. I guess it is to be expected. The 4-H club was about the last target left of this type of thing. Next up: Satanic cults might be running free at St. Jude’s Hospital.
Jesus Christ Brain Glutton, when I said you are dumb I meant that literally. That wasn’t just an insult. Can you please post something in whole paragraph form instead of just assorted sentences? Get a family member to help you if you need to but this has to stop. You are wasting electrons. Post a real point sometime. You couldn’t even pass a Turing Test.
CNN is responsible for Piers Morgan, Joy Behar, Dr. Drew (covering the Anthony trial instead of medical issues), Jane Velez-Mitchell and Nancy Grace. And while it’s true that all but Morgan have been shuttled off to CNN’s offspring station HLN (and “Headline” is one word, bitches) in an effort by CNN to separate itself from its gossipy garbage shows and remain a “news” channel, it still promotes these piece-of-crap programs on both its television network and online news site.
Interestingly enough, all this has happened in the last five years. Maybe ol’ Ted wasn’t so bad after all.
If that were what the actual article said, then yes, that would be gratuitously stupid. Unfortunately, Shagnasty seems to have seriously misinterpreted and/or misrepresented both articles. They both look like “News Shortage Strikes Nation” stories, but they’re not as bad as he makes them out to be.
The first one is actually a response to comments on an earlier article called "Five Reasons to Buy from Your Local 4-H ". Apparently some of the comments on the article were of the “ZOMG!DESENSITIZATION!” PETA-loon stripe. The author of the article hardly seems to be staking that position–honestly, to me, it reads more like “WTF? Do you people really believe that?” That could just be me, though; the article is phrased fairly neutrally (though it still has some nice things to say about 4-H) and solicits more comments
The second one is about revising the Constitution, yes, but not in real-time, not completely, and not “on Facebook”. Essentially, it’s a suggestion that social media tools could be used to post and discuss suggestions for amendments; the logical extension would be using the same tools to coordinate the process of actually proposing any consensus amendments that arose. This was inspired by Iceland using these tools to solicit ideas for rewriting their constitution…which predictably produced some really dumb ideas, but also some that are worthy of consideration.
Short version: It’s about having a public brainstorming session on new amendments.
Now, the author does seem to have some fairly stupid, or at least ill-informed, ideas about the Constitution as it stands today. In particular, he seems clueless about the reason the Senate is structured the way it is. Overall, though, it shouldn’t make anyone’s brain try to crawl out an ear to escape.
Have you seen what they run on television? It doesn’t surprise me at all that they would run stories on their website heavily featuring message board comments and social networking. Half of their TV stories feature a segment where somebody like Wolf Blitzer will say “Now let’s see what Americans are saying on twitter”. No, Wolf, I really don’t think we need to hear what catmom258 tweeted about the debt crisis. But they’ll spend five minutes of airtime on that crap. They even do real time polls where the 5 viewers they have left can vote on which story runs next. "We asked our viewers what they’d like to see for the final segment in this hour. The choices were: Libya, illegal immigration, and fainting goats. The results are in, and now we bring you cute female reporter of undetermined ethnicity’s expose on fainting goats… with video from YouTube "
It’s not so much a bias as it is just fucking lazy. Instead of writing actual copy, they just use comments from the net, and it’s bled over into how they think. This is what we see in these two pieces. The 4H one is just a bunch of posts lifted from their board (not biased - just lazy filler) and the second is “Hey, isn’t the internet awesome” (also not biased - just kinda stupid) It’s no wonder they’ve fallen to third place.
I’d love a new Constitution, just to torpedo all the stupid Constitution worship in this country; but I don’t want the US public writing it. I sympathize with the OP.
Thank God someone here has reading comprehension skills, since the OP doesn’t.
Could this be a huge joke, like Shagnasty is channeling Emily Litella? If so, I think this could be a fun game of reading some news, and not really understanding the story at all, and then getting mad about it. I’ll do the same to the OP:
"What’s all this about the 4H club training desensitized killers? I say there are enough terrorists in the world. We don’t need farmers turning children into terrorists and murderers. Kids should be trained how to raise animals, not be unfeeling serial killers! (haha, serial sounds like cereal, get it?)
“And what’s all this about Facebook rewriting the Constitution? I hear Mark Zuckerberg grew up in Iceland, which makes him ineligible to be our president anyway. But at least it is better than MySpace running the country, then it would just be 14 year old girls from 2005 running the country.”