I pit Oil Companies and the Government

I pit oil companies that use our men and women as disposable fodder knowing full well the repercussions when they are killed are minimal. I pit the Canadian Government that has allowed the Workers Compensation Act (WCA) to be used as a shield for these companies. I pit the Alberta Government that has made billions and billions of dollars from oil and has only 2 prosecutors to charge these companies that recklessly kill people every week.

My son was killed working in the oil field. The investigators did their job, it took them 8 months to go through all their procedures and forwarded the report to the prosecutor’s office. I have been called the prosecutor, he has been excellent, there are obvious issues and there is no doubt that the two major companies involved have broken safety regulation and procedures. So what is the fucking problem, charge these irresponsible bastards and let’s punish them. There is a 2 year statute of limitations.

Well the problem is they have other cases just as bad with even tighter time issues. So I went to see a lawyer to check out my options. Thanks to the WCA I have zero options. My son signed them away when he took the job. Everyone in Canada signs them away when they take any job. There is another Act that allows families to sue for compensation for wrongful deaths, but my son was married, so that doesn’t apply. The max is only $75,000 anyway. Don’t get me wrong here, I’m not looking to make money off my son’s death, I don’t want a few thousand or even a couple hundred thousand dollars. I want millions. I want to hurt these companies. I want to make these bastards accountable for each and every death that happens needlessly because some motherfucker wants to cut corners.

I know it’s not going to happen, so where does that leave me? Back to the Prosecutor. I talked to them yesterday, they are still waiting for the final decision. There are other cases still more urgent time wise. Be patient.

Fuck you. And the oil companies. And the government that has allowed this system. I want to wish that they all get the phone call I did 3 weeks after my son was married. 4 months after I moved from Ontario back to Alberta because my son had decided to make his life here and he wanted me closer so his kids would grow up with their Grandma. I want to wish their kids are killed, but I am not that heartless.

So instead I get up each day, pretend there is a point, and hope today is the day I get the call that charges have been laid. I have been patient, but you know what? It’s been 705 days. Patience is soon moot, they only have 25 more days then time runs out.

Damn. I’m sorry for your loss.
I hope your patience will soon be rewarded.

I’m very sorry for your loss, FarmerChick.
A friend of the family was killed on the job a few years ago, and his mom is now a public speaker on the subject of workplace safety. She’s a wonderful lady, and may have some ideas for you - I don’t know if there is anyone else you can lobby, or anyone else you can talk to…but if there is - Julie knows.
Missing Tim

Over here, workers’ compensation more or less ends at death, although it provides for some death benefits.

If there’s proof of negligence, why can’t you just file a wrongful death suit?

That’s covered in the OP. She says she can’t file a wrongful death suit b/c her son was married.

I didn’t say it made sense to me, just that it was covered in the OP.

Thanks for the link The Lady, but I’m not yet ready to deal with anything else yet. I will keep it tho.

Really Not All That Bright, Here in Canada, we are not able to sue like you Americans. As Don’t Call Me Shirley pointed out, I have no recourse at this point, and honestly a few thousand dollars isn’t going to make any difference to any oil company. Even if they are charged, the maximum fine here is $500,000. Those motherfuckers make that much before your first coffee break.

FarmerChick, your post implies to me that while you can’t file a wrongful death suit, his wife can. Is that right? What does your DIL think?

She cannot either, she has already been “compensated” through the WCA as survivor benefits.

These companies should not be able to use WCA as a shield, but they can and do. This Act is almost 100 years old, it came about after a mining incident here in Alberta. Before the Act was implemented, if the worker could be help responsible even 1%, the company was not even liable for one nickle. It was a simple as briefly glancing away and if you were killed, your family got nothing, not even money to bury you. As a result of a union law suit brought against the mining company on behalf of the widows, Corporations ended up agreeing to “no fault” liability. The companies would pay for the funeral, and pay the widow survivor benefits. If the worker was unmarried, he was buried and that was all the family got. The flip side is they workers lost the right to sue. And they gave up the families right to sue.

Think about that for a minute.

Yeah, the mining companies, and oil companies and all the other big faceless motherfucking corporations love that Act.

The cost of doing business in Canada is pretty cheap really. So what if a couple people die? Is the body gone yet? our rig is down… Time is money doncha know.

I’m really sorry to hear about your loss, FarmerChick and doubly sorry that you are so powerless to do anything about it :frowning: :frowning:

I initially avoided opening this thread because I expected another rant on gas prices.

I really, really wish that I had been right. :frowning:

FarmerChick, words are hideously inadequate, but I guess the government has ensured that’s all you’re going to get. I’m so sorry.

The biggest tragedy here is the knowledge that this is going to happen again and again until the government steps in and actually does its job at protecting its citizens. And it’s not like this is an isolated incident, as the recent explosion at the propane storage facility in Toronto and the news that the Conservatives want to neuter the Canadian Food Inspection Agency illustrates.

You imply that the government and oil companies are 2 separate entities. Those days are gone. If you wonder how they were able to get away with stuff like this it is easy. They decide the rules are allow the government to codify them.
Worker safety costs money and slows down production. People are replaceable. That is the new order. Human life is worth less and less. Sorry for your loss .

Actually, that’s kind of the old order. That we got away from for a little while, but now is coming back. Look at the early days of the railroad business. People were killed left and right and no effort was made to make it safer. Same with mines and a bunch of other professions.

There’s a lot of culpability to go around in the area of workplace safety. I hear the stories almost every day from my husband (a construction safety officer for a large, multinational construction management company) about workers who circumvent the safety measures put in place for their own safety (“I can’t see properly through these safety glasses”; “Long-sleeved shirts are too hot”; “I forgot to put my gloves on”; “Tying myself off properly on the roof takes too long.” etc.) *

The companies not obeying the laws already in place are culpable - they have a responsibility to know the laws and implement them, and often don’t unless forced to by some outside agency. They have a responsibility to their workers to have procedures that will ensure the safety of every worker, all the time, and to not to bully their workers into working unsafely. My husband’s company is the prime contractor on many very large jobs, and they force their sub-trades to follow the safety rules as instructed by the Alberta government. Both the individual workers and the companies themselves vigourously resist following the safety laws.

In an economy where construction companies have more work than they can handle, a company that takes safety seriously runs the risk of losing sub-trades to other jobs where the safety standards are looser. There is still a lot of self-policing that is expected to go on, and some companies do, and some don’t. Some will walk on the ragged edge until a worker falls off, and then cross their fingers that they will only get a slap on the wrist for systematically ignoring safety laws. Other companies like the one my husband works for make more of an effort to follow the spirit and letter of the safety laws already in place, but even then, it takes buy in at every level of the company to be effective.

The government has many laws in place that they only enforce and prosecute minimally. Like I said, lots of culpability to go around.

  • Please note I am not saying even slightly that you son was responsible for his own death, Farmer Chick. You have my sincere sympathy for your loss.

I work in the Alberta oil fields and I’m very familiar with daily safety routines. Safety is the “cool buzzword” right now and it’s “safety this” and “safety that”, which it should be, obviously.

The problem is that as soon as a safety procedure interferes with productivity and profits, it’s thrown right out the window. The oil companies preach safety but they don’t really mean it. The slogan is “Safety First” but in reality it’s “Safety Third”.

I’m sorry for your loss.

Thank you all for your condolences and kind words. The frustration I feel at this situation is soul crushing. If I didn’t have my animals that force me to go outside every day, I don’t know how I would cope. I have spent the morning mucking out the barn, nothing like a hard sweaty job to help control anger.

To my fellow Canadians, it really is eye-opening to go through something like this. I always thought we were better protected then third world countries, but really we are not. Shamozzle, I will say to you the same thing I say to my family and friends that work in the Patch, keep your head up and the eyes in the back of your head open. Nobody gives a shit out there about you, be safe please.

hugs I’m sorry aout your son FarmerChick.

Whenever I hear of accidents happening in Fort Mac or wherever my brother is working this month I wonder if I’ll be getting a call about them.

I know my Dad has been hurt before and had his go-round with Workman’s Comp. When I was a teen some metal was dropped on his foot, he was in a cast for weeks. Most recently he fought with them in court because he hurt his knee… but there were no witnesses. He had to have surgery and was on light duties for quite awhile, about 3 years ago. It was only recently that they agreed he had been injured at work, but he never did get any compensation, just the satisfaction of them noting in his file what really happened.

Okay, FarmerChick, I ran your situation by my safety officer husband to see if he could offer you any good ideas, and this is what he came up with (I hope this is okay, mods - Jim won’t be posting regularly - he just wanted to address this particular point in his field of expertise):

My sincerest condolences for your loss, FarmerChick. Yours is a sad, but all-too-common story all over the place.

I wanted to provide some clarification on the Workers Compensation Board in Alberta (and most other jurisdictions in North America). It was established based on what are now known as the Meredith Principles (http://www.wcb.ab.ca/about/why.asp), which were set out in 1913, by the then Chief Justice of Ontario, Sir William Meredith. Meredith had been looking at the statistics generated by the Pittsburgh Survey, which was conducted in 1908 in Allegheny County, PA. In that survey, it was noted that there had been more than 520 workplace deaths in the single year of the survey in that one county. It was also noted that the families of the deceased and the seriously injured bore the brunt of the economic misfortune resultant from these incidents, even though the companies were typically to blame. Meredith reasoned that this was a bad thing and suggested his principles for the Workers Compensation Act:

[ul]
[li]workers receive compensation benefits at no cost for work-related injuries;[/li][li]employers bear the direct cost of compensation and in return receive protection from lawsuits arising from injuries;[/li][li]negligence and fault for the cause of injury are not considerations; and[/li][li]a system administered by a neutral agency having exclusive jurisdiction over all matters arising out of the enabling legislation.[/li][/ul]

Every WCB system on Earth makes use of these principles to one extent or other, and I believe they are sound. Problems really only begin to arise when one side or the other starts to take advantage of the rules, either by working the system for some easy compensation or by trying to hide from financial consequences. In Alberta, the financial consequences have become much more dire in recent years – while outstanding safety performance which keeps injuries to a minimum can lower your WCB payments by as much as 40%, poor performers can be subject to as much as a 200% surcharge. I’m guessing that the Oil and Gas company your son worked for has a base WCB rate somewhere around $5 for every $100 earned, so if they are performing poorly due to workplace injuries and fatalities, this could run as high as $15 on the 100, which could very well eat up their entire profit margin for the year (and the next three years, since all WCB claims remain attached to the company’s rating for a three-year period).

The other main place where companies can get dinged is through Workplace Heath and Safety. As FarmerChick pointed out, that branch of the provincial government can prosecute companies for violations of our Occupational Health and Safety legislation. The penalties appear to be very clearly stated (http://www.qp.gov.ab.ca/documents/acts/O02.cfm):

41(1) A person who contravenes this Act, the regulations or an adopted code or fails to comply with an order made under this Act or the regulations or an acceptance issued under this Act is guilty of an offence and liable
(a) for a first offence,
(i) to a fine of not more than $500 000 and in the case of a continuing offence, to a further fine of not more than $30 000 for each day during which the offence continues after the first day or part of a day, or
(ii) to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months,
or to both fines and imprisonment, and
(b) for a 2nd or subsequent offence,
(i) to a fine of not more than $1 000 000 and in the case of a continuing offence, to a further fine of not more than $60 000 for each day or part of a day during which the offence continues after the first day, or
(ii) to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 12 months,
or to both fines and imprisonment.

But people usually stop reading there and miss this part:

41.1(1) Where a person is convicted of an offence against this Act, in addition or as an alternative to taking any other action provided for in this Act, the court may, having regard to the nature of the offence and the circumstances surrounding its commission, make an order directing the person
(a) to establish or to revise
(i) the policy referred to in section 32(a) and arrangements referred to in section 32(b), or
(ii) a training or educational program regarding the health or safety of workers at the work site,
(b) to take specific action to improve health and safety at work sites, or
(c) to take any other action specified in the regulations.
(2) The order may contain any substance or conditions that the court considers appropriate.

Basically, the courts are given carte blanche to make whatever judgments they see fit under that second, misnumbered part, and the courts have gone to that option frequently in recent years. Most of the penalties issued have not been fines, but contributions to appropriate training facilities or funds. Also, it has been my experience that WHS tends to wait to the very last minute until they file charges – we had a near-fatality on one of my sites back in 2005 and the charges were not filed until 23 months later. That’s in part due to the lack of manpower in WHS and in part to give everyone every possible chance to provide adequate evidence in support of their position. And that’s consistent with FarmerChick’s story of so much inaction to this point.

Finally, the Canadian government can charge the company and its owners under the Bill C-45 legislation. That law allows for companies and their principles to be found criminally liable if gross negligence is found. The Crown has been very frugal in laying these charges and only one has stuck since the legislation was enacted a few years ago, but the option does now exist.

The challenge in any of the prosecution options is proving negligence and disproving due diligence. If a company can demonstrate a consistent history of good behaviour, they will typically be let off the hook. If, however, it can be shown that a company has willfully violated the law, they are getting hit increasingly hard – the province of Alberta doled out more fines in the first quarter of 2008 than they did in all of 2007. So they are making an effort to get tougher with irresponsible companies.

Alberta averages a workplace fatality about every three days and has done so for quite a number of years. That actually makes us a pretty decent performer in the grand scheme of things. Also on the upside, workplace injuries in general have been dropping steadily over the last decade. But that hardly replaces the lives lost when something goes catastrophically wrong.

FarmerChick, I don’t know if any of this info will provide you with any consolation; hopefully you can reassure yourself with the knowledge that that the company that killed your son will be paying for this incident in some way, shape or form, and much more than might appear on the surface of things.

Mr featherlou

Thanks you for the info Mr featherlou, I am aware that the judge can and does channel the fines to different organizations and such. I think that is a great idea. I am also aware that the fines have been steadily increasing, and have dramatically increased this year. I’m also aware that Alberta is ahead of many provinces and the US in prosecuting and fining companies.

I hadn’t thought of the WCB implications, and now I may be really pissed off. Are you saying the company my son worked for is getting nailed for his death? Is the Large Drilling Corporation that contracted my son’s company or the Oil Corporation that contracted the Large Drilling Corporation affected WCB wise? My son’s company has been cleared of any wrong doing, it’s the other two that is the problem.

My son’s company was devastated when this happened, they have done the right thing all along, they have set up two scholarships in my son’s memory. The other 2 companies never even bothered to send me a condolence card. In fact, to add insult in injury, on the Large Oil Company’s website they are congratulating themselves on 7 years without a lost time incident. Fuckers. I guess because he was killed just outside the gate he doesn’t count.

Yes I am angry and bitter, but I really hope I am misunderstanding what you are saying, and all the companies involved at paying higher WCB rates, not just my son’s company.

I’m very sorry for your loss. Here in the US, if I were in the same position I could go to my congressmen and raise a big stink, and sometimes that helps with stuff like this. Is that something you can do in Canada?

Somehow I get the idea that that Zsofia’s congressman isn’t going to be all that interested in worker safety issues in Canada. :wink: