Sorry - I should have said, “First be predictable, then be nice.” “Predictable” should be your goal in driving; “nice” is icing on the cake. I’ll take a predictable driver over a nice one any day of the week (when I think of a “nice” driver, I think of the yahoos sitting at four way stops and waving other people through when the “nice” driver has the right-of-way, confusing everyone and getting the order of proceeding mixed up).
How do you know? The disruption will probably happen behind you. Are you checking back there? If you are causing cars behind you to have to put on the brakes or change lanes, then yes, you disrupted traffic. It doesn’t necessarily take the obvious form of squealing tires or honking. And one person slowing down unexpectedly causes a chain reaction that can continue for minutes after the original issue has cleared, which you would not see.
People who don’t accelerate on merge ramps (when there’s space available) drive me absolutely bananas. By trying to merge in traffic going 70 when you’re going 30, you (generic you, not you personally) are endangering yourself, the people in the travel lanes who have to slam on the brakes or swerve wildly to avoid you, and the people stuck behind your stupid ass in the merge lane who now can’t accelerate themselves because you were blocking them and now they have to try to make the same dangerous maneuver. If you want to put yourself at risk, have at it. But don’t drag me with you.
Ok, I understand now. Yes, I agree with you - Predictability is important when driving.
I understand where you are coming from.
It sure does.
Those people sound like dicks. At the same time, the fact that they have the space to pull off such maneuvers does in fact prove that the stupid, slow motherfuckers they are swerving around have the space and opportunity to move to the right.
If you’re in the left lane passing cars and someone runs right up on your ass, pull over at the first opportunity so that person can pass you, otherwise you’re a DICK and a major traffic hazard.
Slow, rude, oblivious people in the left lanes suck cock. By choice.
Exactly this. Recently somebody going straight at a *green light *stopped to wave me across while I was waiting to make a left turn! Good thing I didn’t take him up on that, since the guy coming up behind him (thankfully in a different lane) didn’t think that stopping on green meant being “nice” and continued on through the intersection. Take the right of way when you have it! This Good Samaritan could have caused a really bad situation.
Also, if I’m timing my entrance ramp speed to merge in behind you, you are NOT doing me a favor by slowing down to let me in front of you. Just maintain your speed and everybody will be fine.
Um, no. Around here, there are exit ramps from the left lane. There are highway splits that require some people to go to the left in order to get to the destination they want to get to. Freeways frequently turn into surface streets with intersections and people have to be in the left lane to make a left turn at an upcoming traffic light.
The left lane is not a dedicated passing lane in any sense of the word. It’s a lane that people need to be in in order to get to where they want to go. People who think that their selfish urge to go 15 miles per hour faster than the traffic that everyone else is going – when they likely will find themselves coming to a full stop in a mile or two anyway, because of traffic or a traffic light – trumps common sense and safety are the ones that suck cock.
I don’t give a crap how many times the freeway splits or in which direction. The “keep right” rule is a simple concept that a driver can easily apply to any situation.
If the freeway splits, get your ass over to the bit you want to be on, you might have to speed up to merge with traffic, that’s apparently tough for some folk.
If you have a left exit, no problem, expect that you’ll have to speed up in order to move with the faster traffic just before you exit.
How hard is it to look at how fast the people next to you are driving and then drive that speed?
This right here, this is the rub. Why do you give a flying fuck how fast anyone else is going? People exceeding the speed limit don’t impede traffic. Oblivious people impede traffic. Arrogant, passive-aggressive people who like to play cop and block the passing lane impede traffic.
What really kills me about the sanctimonious “not entitled to speed” argument is the figures you toss out - 15mph over, really? The douchebag left-lane drivers that I’m bitching about impede my driving which is speed limit - 5mph over. cough most of the time
In this uber urban traffic nightmare you’ve been describing where people couldn’t keep right if they wanted to some people still manage to go 15mph over the speed limit?
A-fuckin’-mazing! I’m even more convinced that city drivers have their heads firmly ensconced in their asses because if there’s room to go 15mph over and zig-zag like a jack rabbit, then there’s room for the slow and cock-sucking to move right.
This. Thank you.
Bri2k
Drive any contemporary driving sim, add as many AI drivers as you can, and get back to me.
I don’t understand what comes over people when they get behind the wheel. Whether it be the asshole who is driving 60 in the left lane (yes, the PASSING lane) who refuses to move over for the driver wanting to pass. This necessitates the driver wanting to pass to do so on the right; THEN the asshole driving 60 decides to play “I can drive fast than you” when you try to pass.
Or, as I just experienced yesterday, the asshole who is merging onto the expressway ahead of you who doesn’t appreciate being passed for driving 35mph as he merges, so he decides to step on the gas so he can get back ahead of you just so he can slam on his brakes and come to a COMPLETE STOP in the middle of the fucking expressway! :eek: What the fuck?! Thankfully, there wasn’t much traffic so I could swerve over to avoid him but the asshole then tailed me, putting his brights on, for the next 10 minutes. For what? For nothing. 
The traffic has already set the speed and it’s roughly the same in all the lanes. It’s just that one guy who comes along and is trying to get around everybody all at once who’s the problem.
The traffic has already set the speed and it’s roughly the same in all the lanes. It’s just that one guy who comes along and is trying to get around everybody all at once who’s the problem.
The traffic has already set the speed and it’s roughly the same in all the lanes. It’s just that one guy who comes along and is trying to get around everybody all at once who’s the problem.
The traffic has already set the speed and it’s roughly the same in all the lanes. It’s just that one guy who comes along and is trying to get around everybody all at once who’s the problem.
I’ll say it one more time, because it seems like you’re having an inordinate amount of difficulty grasping this concept – The traffic has already set the speed and it’s roughly the same in all the lanes. It’s just that one guy who comes along and is trying to get around everybody all at once who’s the problem.
I don’t understand if you’re intentionally being obtuse or what. That one guy is weaving through traffic while causing a series of near misses and putting everyone at risk. He’s the one who should just pick his fucking lane and go the same speed as everyone else in that lane is already going.
I don’t know why thus concept is so difficult to understand. In urban rushhour traffic there’s no such thing as a passing lane. Every day there are massive backups and traffic jams when an accident forces the closure of a lane for a few hundred feet. Reserving an entire lane just so the occasional car can go significantly faster than every other damn car is exactly like that only worse. It’s simply not going to happen.
Furthermore, that thing where that one guy tailgates and weaves from one lane to another through every narrow gap – that’s called aggressive driving and cops actually issue tickets for that. So who’s in the wrong here?
I was going to create my own driving pit thread, but I’m happy to use this.
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Someone mentioned wide turns. Just as bad are not-wide enough turns. Fuck you, guy on the outer left turn lane that makes a 45-degree bee-line to the cross road. You’ve forced me on the inside to do the same thing, and now I have to make a sharp turn at the last second to stay in my lane. Follow the goddamn dashed line!
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Fuck anyone that moves into turn lanes halfway through. And fuck anyone that brakes before they get into the lane, unless the lane is unreasonably short or full of cars. Your car can handle changing lanes at full speed. You do it all the time on the highway. But you’re forcing me to brake because you’ve decoded to slow down to 20 mph on a 50 mph expressway.
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Fuck tailgaters. No, not the guy to my rear; I don’t give a shit about you unless you hit me. No, fuck the tailgater in front of me, particularly if you’re a douche with an SUV that I can’t see around. You brake all the time and as such you’re amplifying the irregularities in the traffic flow, which I now have to account for doubly to maintain a constant speed, and if you’re in a tall vehicle, I can’t even anticipate your stupid behavior since I can’t see the car in front of you.
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Screw you people that can’t brake properly. Yeah, you people that keep the brake pedal depressed even as you come to a standstill: I can see the ass-end of your car rise up, and then slam down as you come to a stop. I don’t give a shit when driving myself (other than laughing at you), but when I’m a passenger in your car it’s damn annoying. Just let up on the brake a bit at the last second. I’d explain it to you in terms of the derivative of acceleration, but you’re obviously too stupid, and you’d only be offended when I mentioned “jerk”.
bolding mine
Still you.
The fact that a bunch of bad drivers don’t drive well all at once doesn’t make you correct.
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Today I learned that asshole behavior is not limited to highways and city streets, drivers on rural roads are even crazier, if that’s possible. I was enjoying myself, taking a drive out to a farmer’s market-type place, today. It’s out in the middle of nowhere, and usually quite a pleasant drive. Well, today I had two different douchenozzles right up my ass while trying to drive on a gravel-fucking-road. I don’t drive like an old lady, but I’m not gonna try to go 60 in the Jeep on an unfamiliar gravel road.
How much slack are you gonna cut this guy? He’s laid out a world of elbow to asshole traffic where everyone drives the same speed except for a handful of people who manage to drive 15mph over the speed limit and somehow slalom the bumper-to-bumper traffic, physics and logic be damned. The exaggeration, it burns!
It’s not that I don’t believe urban rush-hour traffic is a slightly different kettle of fish, I stipulated as much above, it’s that Acsenray combines a gift for hyperbole with those snotty comments about drivers he considers “selfish” and “entitled” - fuck me running, it’s driving not psycho analysis. It’s not about hurt feelings or egos, it’s about getting from point A to point B in a safe, timely fashion.
If you want to drive below the speed limit, like a pussy, hang out in the right lanes so those of us who don’t want to fuck the dog all day can get where we’re going.
All the lanes are full and there isn’t enough room for everyone to move to the left just so one car can go faster than everyone else. So you’re either going to have to just learn to live with it, or work yourself up into having a stroke, or you’re going to be that guy causing rushhour accidents making everyone’s commute longer than it has to be because those are your choices. Your fantasy of there being one lane saved just for precious you ain’t happening. So just live with it, because the world is not going to change. You’ll always be driving behind somebody.
So let me get this straight, you’re saying the traffic has set the speed and it’s roughly the same in all lanes?
If they’re all going the same speed why would it be a nuisance to leave a lane (to the left) open for those who want to go faster? You know, the way our drivers’ ed guy taught us when we were 14.
Wait, wait, let me take a page from your book - I pit all you selfish, slow drivers who think you’re entitled to take up the whole freeway as if you have a god-given right to hog every lane.
Edit: Aw, we’re simulposting 
yay! The traffic where I am is nowhere as near as nightmarish as the picture you’ve painted. I live in a fantasy land where most drivers DO use the freeway properly and it’s just a few douchebags that fuck it up so my blood pressure is good. Thanks for caring, warms my cockles.
I don’t understand why this is so hard to understand. All the lanes are full of cars – the road is already hovering around its full capacity. Leaving one lane open for a handful of cars and packing all the rest of the cars into one fewer lane will significantly slow down all those lanes, just like closing a lane for construction or for an accident does. What’s rational about that?
As soon as you start packing the right lanes to overcapacity, the drivers in that lane are naturally going to start using the left lane, and the traffic will again reach its natural equilibrium given the number of available lanes. It’s simply not reasonable to expect that one lane on a congested road is going to remain open for any length of time.