I pit Rush Limbaugh for being an idiot about birth control

Yes.

Rush: “when I used those two words to describe Sandra Fluke…”

Two words? Not exactly:

I don’t think I need a Ph.D. in math to notice that that’s a bit more than just two words.

Yeah, as Colbert pointed out, Rush is sorry for use of those two words, but apparently the rest of the broadcast stands.

The first time I heard the comment about “Who bought your condoms in sixth grade” was last night on Colbert. That got gasps from the audience, and I didn’t think I could be shocked by anything Rush said any more, but I’m surprised that particular comment hasn’t gotten more attention. That’s the most awful one on the list, with the possible exception of the one about wanting to watch her sex tapes online.

You can really sense how much the ground has shifted under the feet of people like Rush and his fans. Suddenly you can’t just call women who disagree with your politics sluts and whores, this must be what they’re talking about when they say the culture has gone to hell. The women and minorities have gotten uppity.

And he doesn’t like that.

…and nobody appreciates good humor any more…

Yes, although in fairness, of that complete list, I agree with one comment… that is, of that long list, I content that at least one comment is an absolutely fair an accurate assessment of Ms. Fluke’s position.

“…they want to have sex any time, as many times and as often as they want, with as many partners as they want.”

True, they do. And who among us would disagree with that statement?

Well, maybe my spouse. :mad:

So now all the message boards and most of the comments and usual suspects have switched to “We’re still waiting for Bill Maher to apologize to Bristol Palin!” and “The Left NEVER apologizes!” as their defense.

Could somebody explain the logic of this to me?

Your mistake is in thinking that logic is involved.

What’s logic got to do with it?

I would. As has been stated in this thread by multiple posters, that’s not what birth control is for. Birth control pills can be used to fuck the entire football team but even that’s ill advised because it won’t protect you from STDs.

Birth control pills can and are used if you’re in a monogamous relationship or even if you’re having no sex whatsoever. The amount of sex is completely unrelated to the usage of the pills.

But getting back to the facts, Sandra Fluke has NEVER stated or even implied that she wants to use birth control to “have sex any time, as many times and as often as (she) want(s), with as many partners as (she) want(s).” So yes, I would disagree with your statement.

But the statement is a truism. In can’t be false. If Ms. Fluke wishes to remain a virgin until she marries, and have sex only with her husband, it’s still true that she wants to have sex any time, as many times and as often as (she) want(s), with as many partners as (she) want(s). It’s just that any time is “after marriage,” and “as many partners” is “1.”

My point is: that statement can’t be false.

But zero times or once or one partner or dozens might be “as often as she wants” and “with as many partners as she wants.”

:slight_smile:

True. But still – YOU want to have sex any time, as many times and as often as you want, with as many partners as you want. How can it be otherwise? You want what you want. It’s definitional.

Exactly. She can’t possibly want what she doesn’t want. Whatever she wants is exactly what that statement says she wants.

Bricker, do you think that Rush was implying with his statement that Fluke’s (ETA: or any woman who takes birth control, since Fluke didn’t discuss her sex life) desire was to be monogomous or abstain from pre-marital sex? If you strip the statement from all context, it can have that meaning. It absolutely has a context, though. It’s meaningless to say it can have that meaning when it clearly is not meant to.

I think my assessment would be that I agree with the statement, personally (Rush implies that somehow it’s a bad thing) and for all I know Sandra Fluke does too, but that it is not a fair assessment of her position in her testimony, since that had nothing to do with the subject of her testimony.

I agree that Rush clearly meant to tar her with promiscuity, not state a truism. He did, however, state a truism.