I pit the DNC's IT staff and the media

Why would they be? Podesta is neither a committee member nor a DNC staffer. Also, the DNC is not some massive Politburo that has infinite resources and control over all Democrats. Change the signage on their building, and DNC HQ would easily be mistaken for your local Elmira Business Institute “campus”

Well, given the DNC’s recent track record…yeah, one could make that mistake.

The OP should have should have said “the Hillary Campaign’s IT Staff”. Point taken, and maybe the OP can ask to have his thread title corrected.

Nixon was shocked when he heard the Plumbers broke into the DNC HQ because what was the point of burgling such a toothless entity?

Neither the DNC or RNC are major players. They basically organize the Presidential debates and the National Conventions, put together the party platforms, and fundraise.

Then why are they bitching about being hacked?

Then why was what was hacked from them national news?

Then why was what was hacked from them causing Hillary and team to bitch that such unfair hacking cost them the election?

Then why was the “fact” that the Russians hacked them such a big deal to the Dems in general?

Either your shit is important and you should try your best to not get it hacked.

Or your shit doesn’t matter and when it DOES get hacked you should go “good luck with that bub…you want some naked pics of my mother while you are at it?”

You can’t have it BOTH WAYS.

Either your shit is important enough to not be hacked and you should do something a bit better than Forest Gump or it isn’t and you shouldn’t equate its hacking to a threat to the free world.

Why not? It’s somewhat titillating and exposes some “dirty laundry”. Much lesser stuff becomes “national news”.

I honestly don’t remember any “bombshells” in the released emails. Maybe there were and I am suppressing the memory and someone will help me remember by pointing out a couple?

As for why - they gotta blame something. It couldn’t be their own fault, it has to be something external and preferably “unfair”. It’s a natural reaction.

Is she hot?

Hotter than yours :slight_smile:

Though I must admit your granny is rockin it.

There really weren’t any bombshells. The biggest revelations were that some DNC staffers wrote mean stuff about Bernie in May, well after he was all but mathematically eliminated, but still going on Podesta said some impolitic things. However, the leaks were meted out and timed in way that they sucked up lots of oxygen in the news cycle and endless media parsing and speculation, always at times when Clinton would have expected an uptick in her numbers. They were also often erroneously reported, or at last conflated by many, as “Hillary’s emails”.

The best IT team in the world can’t really prevent hacks obtained by someone falling for a phishing scam (as we have found out at my workplace). They can send out alerts and do trainings. However, the Russians absolutely have world-class (certainly better than ours) hacking-and-cracking capabilities and have gotten into a lot tougher targets than the DNC and RNC servers. Remember, these organizations are non-profits that entirely depend upon fundraising for operation expenses, equipment, and salaries. Even if they got really serious about cybersecurity, I wouldn’t expect them to have better IT capabilities than, say, a mid-size corporation.

If I mistakenly leave my car door unlocked and someone takes stuff out of my car, don’t I have a right to get mad about that at the person who did it? Especially if they also used a crowbar to break into locked cars in the lot?

Yes, but don’t get mad when people judge you because they found all your goat porn magazines and posted it on facebook.

My wife asked me what I thought of the Russian hacking, and I said:

  1. Serves them right for being so clueless about cybersecurity.
  2. Shows that you should never send something by email that you don’t want others to see. If it’s sensitive - make a phone call, or walk down the hall.
  3. The “chickens are coming home to roost.” After decades of US subterfuge in other countries’ elections, we finally get ours.

Esp #2. When the fuck are people going to learn: Never put something in an e-mail that you don’t want the entire world to read. :smack:

Hacking, of course, but have you never put the wrong recipient for an email or had one forwarded that shouldn’t have been forwarded???

Sure. But I wouldn’t expect the national media to hyper-ventilate about Trump in that instance. Especially, if the person in charge of parking lot security had seen known this activity was ongoing.

In this analogy, Trump benefits from the thefts indirectly (can’t think of good analogy), but denies that there any thefts, and that not only are the theft victims lying, but so are parking lot security, and the city Police Department (FBI/CIA/etc). He will soon be the Mayor, though.

The total denial of the issue is one of the reasons Trump is getting pushback from people like Lindsey Graham on this.

Anyway, I’m going to have to bow out of this and other threads as deadlines loom.