I seem to recall that Congress has the Spending Clause and can therefore put any limit they want on the money they wish to dish out. This has nothing at all to do with the president being CIC. Congress can do this on everything – like giving money to states for their highways only if the states change their speed limits. The president, in his turn, has the power to veto a bill if he doesn’t like the riders that Congress attached. Both sides were within their rights.
I’m not sure why Congress decided to pass something they knew would absolutely be vetoed. Maybe they were counting on the president being so desperate for the emergency money that they thought he might pass it with reservations (slim chance even so). I think it has more to do with drawing lines in the sand and sending a clear message to the public that they are responding to the discontent that gave us a Democrat controlled Congress in November. Also, possibly, they want to save soldiers’ lives…maybe?
Umm…Clothahump? I teach the Constitution and I’m not seeing a single thing wrong with the actions of Congress here. And not put too fine a point on it, it was your guy who put those troops in harm’s way to begin with.
My guess is he’s a mod or Ed Zotti spicing up the board. And a fine job he or she is doing, there’s little more entertaining on this board than a Clothy pit thread.
You really are an idiot. The Constitution deliberately divides authority on war-making powers between Congress and the Executive. The President’s role as CiC does not give him unlimited authority over the direction of a war or over the Armed Forces.
Sure, like we’re supposed to take the word of someone from liberal academia. What’s next, getting info from the liberal media? Facts from liberal-biased reality?
Bolding mine. Fucking George W. Bush has been consistently ignoring the fucking law since the day he took office. He obviously thinks his idiotic signing statements put him above the law; he could have easily stuck one of them onto the bill under discussion instead of vetoing it. Had he done so, he would have had his funding and would ignore the other requirements. He chose to veto the bill anyway. And, while I’m at it, the next time I hear a Republican say that politicians have no business questioning our military leaders, I’m going to ask why it was okay for the Republicans to ignore our military leaders when going into this idiotic war in the first place.
Damn it, Clothahump, you win the scavenger hunt again. How in the world you managed to get both tasks done before I could get either one accomplished is quite a feat. Either that, or you completed them in advance, you little cheater. Next time, you’ll need to spot us a task or two to be fair.
Yeah, you might want to back off and cut your losses on this one, Humpy old pal. You are not making a good impression. And you can’t just blame it on an ideologically-motivated liberal pile-on, either, since the second response disagreeing with your OP came from Renob.
This is not a liberal-vs.-conservative issue, or a Bush-hater-vs.-non-Bush-hater issue; this is a moron-vs.-non-moron issue, and the non-morons vastly outnumber you.
You know, as stupid as the Dems are, even THEY haven’t claimed that Bush is dumb. The only logical conclusion of this statement, of course, is that you’re even dumber than the Democratic congresscritters.
Are you trying to compete with the OP for who can post the stupidest thing to this thread? Don’t bother. You’ll never catch him, Clothahump is in a class by himself. He’s the Lance Armstrong of dumb.
You know what amazes me about this imperial presidency crap? It never seems to occur to the people spouting it that in slightly less than two years there’s a better than average chance that it’s going to be HILLARY CLINTON wielding that power.
Think about it, Clothahump.
HILLARY CLINTON will be Commander-in-Chief with absolute unfettered power over all aspects of the military and foreign policy. HILLARY CLINTON will be able to eavesdrop at will on anyone who she decides poses a threat to the United States. HILLARY CLINTON will have the power to lock up United States citizens for indefinite periods without a trial, and torture them if she believes it is necessary for national security. HILLARY CLINTON will replace everyone in the Justice Department with left-wing activists who will use the full powers of that Department to harass Republican candidates in every race in the country.
You stupid asshole you had no business submitting this op in the first place. All you accomplished by doing so was:
A public demonstration of your ignorance of the Constitution of the United States.
A public demonstration of the fact that you do not give a rat’s ass about the troops that are in harms way, and are willing to get them kil… oh fuck it I cant go that far even for the sake of parody.
ps u r an idiot.
pps I was one of those troops in harms way (GWI) and I still think you are an idiot. I have friends over there now and they would think you are an idiot. In fact my dog thinks you are an idiot and he likes everybody.
They probably figured that Karl Rove would succeed in his plan for a “Permanent Republican Majority” (that phrase sends shivers down my spine) which is why they never worried about what the other side of the political spectrum might do with these expanded powers.
