Didn’t Sven register to vote? Why don’t we just confirm the information he provided on his voter registration??? If we cannot do so, we can count him as a provisional case of voter fraud.
And no, I don’t think there’s a citizen database. I do think you are either being exceptionally and deceitfully obtuse on this matter, though, or you really are just that stupid.
When Sven registered to vote, he checked the YES box on the question that asked, “I am a citizen of the United States of America (YES/NO).”
So when you say, “Why don’t we just confirm the information he provided on his voter registration?” I’m not sure what you mean. We asked him, and he replied, "“Kyss mig i arslet!” Remember?
What do you mean, specifically, we should do to “confirm the information?”
How can I demonstrate actual cases of non-citizens voting? That’s the evidence you’re demanding. I’m saying it’s virtually impossible to do this.
You seem to be saying before we can take steps to allow us to catch non-citizens voting, I have to show it’s a problem. But the current system doesn’t allow me to show it’s a problem. How do you recommend I proceed?
Then your issue is with Virginia not following it’s own rules about registration, since that would not be sufficient to complete the form you downloaded. Stupid or disingenuous or both? Let’s just go with douchenozzle.
Can you be more specific? What else is needed? What rule about registration do you mean?
Didn’t read your own link? Start with “Starred items are required.” See if you can puzzle out the meaning, dimwit.
Well, when you register, you have to give some sort of ID (for example, valid SSN).
Here are the starred items:
Will you be 18 years old? (Sven answered YES)
SSN: Sven provided his SSN, which both citizens and non-citizens can have
Gender: Sven said M
Date of Birth: Sven said 11/25/1970
Last, first, middle: Yorgensen, Sven Gottislan
Suffix: none
Residence: 1365 Walnut Street, Apt G., Chespeake, Va, 22124
Have you ever been convicted of a felony: NO
Have you ever been judged mentally incap: NO
Signature: Sven signs
Previous voter registration: no
Non-citizens can have a valid SSNs.
And no, when you register in person, you don’t need ID. Even if you registered by mail, a bank statement or utility bill are sufficient (both of which can be had by non-citizens and neither distinguishes citizens from non-citizens.)
Well, Bricker anybody and everybody knows that the zip code 22124 is for Oakton, VA (W of Arlington) which is hundreds of miles away from Chesapeake, VA (S. of Norfolk, zip 23322).
Therefore, because of my vast knowledge of zip codes, there is no need for Voter ID because it’s obvious Mr. Sven is an illegal. The man can’t even fake a valid US address! 
Wait. How can they both have valid SSNs, and not be in the immigration databases?
How long are you going to continue to pretend that the answer is obvious and I’m just dim for not seeing it. Hentor?
Do you think anyone – even the people on your side – are reading this and thinking that you’re winning this argument? Don’t you know that they can see you’re dodging and answering in generalities and that I am answering in very specific terms? Don’t you know that they can see me pressing you for specific answers and you getting more and more insulting instead of supplying them?
So Sven registers. Sven votes. Democracy comes crashing down. And that is why it is so urgently important the nobody votes on Sunday. Got it. Crystal clear.
The Social Security Administration DOES keep citizenship status with their records. So, since Sven has provided us with a SS number, all we need to do is check the number.
Pure bluster, you stupid douchenozzle. You’ve just walked yourself right into evidence of citizenship provided on a registration application.
So, yes, I assume that everyone reading this sees exactly what the situation is.
A bunch of ways. The easiest to explain: prior to 1973, there was no centralized distribution of Social Security Numbers. No checking was done on any information; they simply issued you a card.
Another: prior to 1998, there was no process by which registrations were checked for valid SSNs (in Virginia).
Other ways require me going back and modifying the hypothetical a bit to make it like the case of Ramon Cue in Miami: you find an entry for a Sven Yorgensen in the database, but Sven denies he’s that Sven.
Case law coming in five, four, three…
Prior to 1973?
At last, the debate is back to the really important issue of the validity of voter id laws, and away from such silly distractions as fucking over voters. Nice going, guys.
This is a matter I agree with the Republicans on. And it’s unrelated to how low voter fraud might be today.
As a matter of principle, you should have to show ID to vote. Period. If you can’t be bothered to get an ID to vote, you don’t deserve to vote.
The current debate is about the specific steps that might be used to identify and prosecute a non-citizen who voted.