Similar in that we require ID, yes (or someone with ID to vouch for you). But just look at what counts as ID (49 bullet points, some of which cover multiple kinds of ID!).
Elections Canada really wants every eligible voter to vote. And they make it hard to not have enough ID to vote. A prescription bottle and a library card are enough!
I really hope that all this back-and-forth isn’t taking too much time from friend Bricker’s analysis of the methodology of the recently added evidence. I would do it myself, but I’m just a country boy from Waco, and wouldn’t presume. Wouldn’t get away with it, at any rate.
Anyway, how’s that going, hoss? Under your strict scrutiny, I trust? You know, there are some statistics geeks hereabout, you find yourself in a difficult question about methodology, you could just ask.
I’ll confess to not having read all 8,500 posts in this thread, and I probably brought this up before, but every country had to transition to such laws at some point, and I know that Bricker is on record as saying that such laws should not be sprung on folks without sufficient time to adjust. So, not I’m not seeing people defend the laws for partisan reasons, even if the laws might be proposed for such reasons.
And of course I know that after 8,500 posts, this isn’t really about the issue any more, just people sniping at each other. I pop in here from time to time just to get a bit of a chuckle and to see if anything new is possibly being brought up. And I get defensive when someone goes out of their way to criticize the US for things their country does as well.
I will note once again that… if most every other country in the world does this without suppressing votes, it’s unclear to me that there is such a certainty that voter suppression will happen in the US when we implement it. The courts are there to adjudicate things when claims are made, so it’s not like these laws are writ in stone, never to be changed if needed.
Similar here in Baja Canada (MN), including that part of a neighbors vouching for someone being sufficient to register and vote. Also had a very very close election, Norm! against Franken. A butterfly’s eyelash of margin, lawyers, recounts, so one and so forth and then, just settled. Votes counted, transparent as all git out! Voter confidence has not yet been reduced to smoking ruin, best anyone can tell. An eminently sensible approach.
That’s the thing about Minnesotans, they manage the trick of being dull without being stupid.
Plus the registration process is ridiculously easy. Check a box on your tax return. Nobody trying to fuck you over or anything.
And if you’ve moved or something; just show up at the polling place and do a same-day registration. I’ve been a deputy returning officer and it’s really, really easy to register someone at the polls.
Well, that’s the beauty of a representative democracy: Canada’s citizens were able to adopt a system that makes them happy. I salute them.
But of course, I wouldn’t ever presume to tell Canadians how to run their country. I don’t participate in Canada’s representative democracy, after all.
Good - it leaves more room for those of us who see wrongdoing in other countries to comment on it. Besides, if we weren’t bringing you news of the superior Canadian system, you might not ever realize that a better way existed.
:eek: :smack: So you’ve got immigrants and other riff-raff voting. Your Marxists probably vote 3 or 4 times each. Before you know it you’ll end up with universal health care and then where will you be? Gak!
Psst, Bricker, you seem to have missed post 8511.
Bricker don’t do numbers.
How can you say that, what with the Counselor knee-deep in his analysis of this most recent evidence!
And this:
How open-minded can you be but to firmly declare that if the new evidence passes his strict scrutiny for statistical kosher, he might very well change his opinion on the matter. Perhaps. Maybe.
Of course, it might be noted that this is just the kind of thing that someone of lesser scruple would use to beat a hasty retreat and permanently postpone having to cope with damaging evidence. But, hell, its only been four days! Math is hard!
Interesting articles on voter suppression and who is funding it:
It’s particularly interesting that this is in Al-Jazeera America.
Here’s more from them:
John Oliver
YOU are not the center of the universe.
11 percent of eligible voters don’t have IDs.
Now, you may think it’s still okay to require them, but don’t go around saying that because something is easy for you, it’s easy for everyone.
FYI, here are some interesting details and suggestions from the Brennan Center for Justice:
I thought the study shows “up to” 11 percent.
Okay, “up to.”
Say, good that you’re here, Bricker! We are awaiting with bated breath and rapt attention the results of your methodological analysis of the recently released study. Any time soon?
Yes. Sorry for the delay. Had a death in the family.
For what it’s worth, I would normally be okay with suppressing the vote of Clothahump’s ass, except that as far as I can tell he’s 100% ass, so his vote would be suppressed as well which I oppose on principal.