I Pit the ID-demanding GOP vote-suppressors (Part 1)

Funny – my nephew in California just got a license, at age 15 – but they didn’t register him to vote.
So not everyone.

I dispute it. So you’re wrong AGAIN. And your “fact” is wrong, too.

It should be simple then to demonstate that states are fulfilling their obligations under federal law and checking the citizenship status of newly registered voters.

You made the claim; you back it up. That’s how it works.

I made the claim, I backed it up. Posting a cite that purports to debunk does not automatically mean it is debunked.

Nope, I did that, you only repeated the now debunked (and by their own results of 2014) article again, you only were stupid enough to think that that would fly after the many other reports that came before and after that showed how incomplete your article and the study was. It may had sounded ok back then, but as usual with many conservatives, you only show to have trouble dealing with the march of time and new evidence.

Liar.

And this just in…

https://thinkprogress.org/north-carolina-gops-new-argument-against-early-voting-people-could-die-before-election-day-8b7e36748248#.2s1q1b2t4

(Includes quote on video)

…And dey back to back, belly to belly
Don’t give a damn, dey done vote already…

Better than the alternative, in which the GOP kills everyone who early voted the wrong way and disqualifies their vote on that basis. I believe the Dems filibustered that version of the bill.

Ricin on the early ballots! Leaves no trace, dead in a couple days! If anybody notices that a bunch of early voters check out, say God smote them!

Interesting tactic, but what if someone dies on election day after polls have opened but before they close? Check to see if they voted and track down their ballot to void it?

Immediately place the miscreant under arrest. Offer a plea bargain for a lighter sentence.

More fun and games: a GOP-driven “voter verification program” appears to be resulting in hundreds of thousands of legitimate voters being potentially or actually removed from the voter rolls due to having a similar name to another voter or a felon. The methodology is…not particularly robust.

“Donald” and “Webster” are ethnic names?

Yes, it only affects people named Donald Webster. Hundreds of thousands of people named Donald Webster. You have immediately spotted the flaw in the argument.

I mean, it’s not like the article addressed this:

I can certainly see that angle, but it seemed like a weird comment to make for Donald Webster being the primary example.

What is the alleged purpose of this colossal goat fuck? I kinda know what the actual purpose is, but don’t yet grasp the sham purpose.

Juan Garcia lives at 123 Maple St., Los Angeles, CA. He is registered to vote there. He previously lived in New York, NY, and registered to vote there. So, maybe he is still registered to vote in NY, he can legally vote in CA, jump a quick plane to NY, and vote there? Too silly to give any thought to.

Juan lives in CA, and somebody finds out he’s moved to CA, and…aha!..his registration is available in NY for someone to exploit and vote as him! So, all they have to do to get a thousand fake votes is research enough registration records to find enough people who moved so they can fake their votes. And assign one hundred people to vote ten times in one of those names… No, the logistics of massive voter impersonation fraud is still absurd. Security issues involving several hundred, several thousand conspirators? Still too stupid.

So what dread thing is Crosscheck allegedly going to prevent?

It could be, for that specific location (then again, it might not.) For instance, I heard, with no cite, that Democratic primary voters voted for Alvin Greene, an almost complete unknown, partly based on ethnic identification based on his name, which doesn’t look ethnic to me. So if someone creating the databases knew that “Webster” was more likely to be ethnic in that area, they might have added it.

Be aware that a well-to-do Donald Webster is more likely to receive notification that he’s been de-registered, is more likely to have the time and know-how to fight the de-registration, and*** is much more likely to get helpful response from the registration bureaucrat***.

Programs like Crosscheck make an utter sham of American democracy. Is this horrid program still in place for Ohio this November? Other states? Don’t kid yourself — these vote suppression schemes do change election results, probably even changing the outcome of the 2004 Presidential election.

Did Brickhead ever express an opinion on Crosscheck? “Nanner nanner nanner; your side would do it too if you were smart enough”? Or has he just shambled off, tail between his legs?

ETA: Hey, Brickhead. The heinous policies you espouse are likely to put Trump in power. Is this still “democracy at its finest”?

Can someone tell me why the voter registration process is separate from the voter ID process? You have to establish your ID to register, why not issue a voter ID card at the same time? Then every registered voter would have a voter ID to present at the poll. Grandfather in existing voters with the current system, and within a few years, with normal attrition and moving, most people would have current voter ID. To avoid having to make unique cards at all registration locations, just sync the voter registration process with the state ID and add a voter endorsement to any state ID, the same as organ donation, and send out a replacement card. A small price to pay for a reliable, streamlined system that doesn’t disenfranchise anyone, and reduces voter fraud.

Too simple? Or would that not achieve the real purpose of voter ID laws?