Well, obviously the ID that manson1972 described wouldn’t be valid: That’s the whole point. But even if it didn’t pass muster, it’s still trivially easy to make a fake employer-issued ID that would. After all, employers themselves are able to make them, right? They contract with some company that makes them, and the companies that make them don’t check to see if the IDs they’re making are legitimate or not.
Plus, of course, you’re assuming that the poll workers have the authority to say “No, I’m not going to accept that ID, because it looks fake to me”. And once you do that, you might as well give up on even pretending that you’re holding a fair election, because if they’re allowed to say that, then there’s nothing stopping them from just rejecting any ID presented by anyone who they think is likely to disagree with them.
I’m also curious what you think of the case of Myrtle Delahuerta, mentioned by Budget Player Cadet, and others like her. She’s gone to the effort to get a photo ID. She’s spent two years at it. But she’s still disenfranchised, and her disenfranchisement might very well have turned this recent election.
No. this is not a factual statement. Ms. Delahuerta lives in Texas. She can vote by signing a declaration at the polls explaining why she is reasonably unable to obtain one of the seven forms of approved photo ID.
Why do you say that she is disenfranchised if she can do that?
That they judged intent by the way other races were voted also is a bit of bullshit.
As Bricker himself can attest, from his most recent presidential vote, just because you vote one way for some or even most candidates, doesn’t mean that that is how you are voting on all.
Looking at the ballot, I could not tell you what the intent was. Both were filled in, but there was a slash next to one. Did the slash indicate that they were marking it out, or did it indicate that they were meaning to vote for this person? It is hard (impossible) to say.
It also seems that ballot should have been discardarded anyway for that vote. I have always been told to only vote for the number of people you are supposed to vote for, otherwise your ballot is invalid. I don’t know if that is the rule everywhere, but it is a pretty common sense rule that I would think would be.
What was the justification for simply not counting the vote at all, as the ballot was clearly improperly marked and should have not been considered valid?
The Republican election officials and judges were chosen democratically by the voters of the Commonwealth of Virginia, and performed their duties in accordance with all applicable laws and constitutions and morals. Only by exercising their best judgement in the interests of the Republicans who elected them, and counting this moral vote by a moral Republican voter could they ensure that the people of the Commonwealth have confidence in the integrity of this election and confidence in their democracy.
Keep in mind, those people were elected! The people have given them the power that they wield, to make decisions for the good of the county, the state, and the nation. In their wisdom, they realize that what is best for all concerned is for Republicans to run things.
So they set about making rules and regulations to ensure that such wisdom and probity will prevail, even if the Dems manage to convince more people that they are right, they won’t be permitted to use elections to overturn the proper and correct order of things.
Sure, it *looks *like cheating. But its legal and Constitutional, so that means it is fair and just that they guy who gets the lesser number of votes gets more power. Gotta admit, as a boor of little brain, it still looks like cheating to me. But Bricker is a voter, and he has confidence, so I guess that’s settled.
This question shows you either don’t care to understand what I’ve been saying, or you dishonestly pretend not to.
My concern is about having a system that provides some control against illegal voters, who cannot affect the vast majority of elections, but can sway the rare ultra-close election.
If Ms. Delahuerta signs such an attestation, and then is revealed to be an illegal voter, she has created sufficient evidence to make a criminal prosecution easy.
The Republican election officials and judges were chosen democratically by the voters of the Commonwealth of Virginia, and performed their duties in accordance with all applicable laws and constitutions and morals. Only by exercising their best judgement in the interests of the Republicans who elected them, and counting this moral vote by a moral Republican voter could they ensure that the people of the Commonwealth have confidence in the integrity of this election and confidence in their democracy.