To be ruthlessly fair, the Counselor’s opinion on capital punishment has been consistent and largely correct. Please don’t make me do this again.
Don’t forget how we also are each and individually responsible for “Bork”, and therefore, should not complain when the republicans completely demolish norms and traditions in their efforts to attain and maintain power at any cost.
“The Democrats once drove at 80mph on the freeway, so they can’t complain when Republicans drive at 80mph through a kindergarten playground!”
That’s a great question. And the answer is that I don’t think using an absolutist standard from either camp is helpful. Would you agree that there is a great difference in aborting a fetus when it’s just a few cells as opposed to the minute before it leaves the birth canal? Most people would say yes. As a society, we generally seem to agree with that position, and I’d like us to be able to agree on some compromise position. There are moral arguments to be made for both extreme positions (never allowed, even in cases of rape, incest or the life of the mother vs fine as long it’s still in the woman’s body), but we will never get agreement on the morality of either position. So, I propose, we acknowledge that that law be informed by the morality of both positions but not attempt to enshrine it in statute. I feel that having the issue remain as unresolved as it is and gets in the way of coming together on other issues. I have friends that are single issue voters on both sides of the issue. I find that paralyzing for society. Just my opinion…
Everyone has one. Mine is that abortion should be legal and free with no questions asked even though you don’t like it and it makes you sad. I simply don’t find the argument that something should be illegal because it makes you sad to be a compelling one. Next thing, you’ll be suggesting gay people shouldn’t be allowed to marry because you think it’s icky.
That is not my reasoning. Try rereading. I’m fine not having the law reflect the specifics that I would like. I’m advocating compromise. As long as we have people like you on one side, and those with unmovable religious positions on the other, this issue will continue to divide us.
Why should I compromise? I don’t care if you freedom-hating forced-birth advocates are sad.
Is “it might improve the society you are a part of” worthy of consideration. Your “forced birth advocates” makes no sense here. First, I’m Pro-Choice. Second what I’v e been discussing is not “forcing” births (sigh) it’s reaching a societal understanding that if one wants to terminate a pregnancy that it be done within a certain time frame. That doesn’t mean that every9one has to believe that that is the absolute best plan. You included. As a proxy in this discussion for where the vast percentage of Americans are, I ask you to compromise, just as I ask the devout Christians to compromise and support a reasonable law that does not enshrine their beliefs that all life is sacred and it begins at conception. The alternative is that we continue to have this rift, in the country.
Tell me, if Roe v Wade gets shot down, would you then be in favor of what I suggest?
Is this a very recent addition to Christian dogma? If not, history suggests observation was spotty at best.
As stated earlier, I see no reason to compromise.
Another Republican admits she knows what her party’s efforts are really about, even if the Counselor can’t force himself to do likewise:
At least she’s not spreading conspiracy theories about black men gang raping white women (yet).
I grew up in the Deep South. I understand the mentality of implicit white supremacy. I’ve been in rooms and had private conversations among whites when whites assumed they were in safe company and could freely express their racist views. These people are patient. Their ancestors spent 10 years fighting off union “oppression” and spent another 25 years normalizing the idea of apartheid until they finally got the highest court in the land to enshrine it in court doctrine. What’s different is that they’re in better harmony with their fellow white supremacists in other states. It’s not like southern states are threatening to destroy the union; they just want to find commonality with other insecure white majorities across the land.
Hmm. Seems like there’s some actual voter fraud going on!
https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21350123&postcount=60
A North Carolina electoral board unanimously voted not to certify the results of the election, on the basis of some incredibly sketchy shit going on, and what appears to be large-scale absentee ballot fraud.
Bricker, this seems to be right up your wheelhouse! Haven’t seen you in that thread; maybe you should give it a look. 
That’s actually vague: who is hearing and how are they doing it? Is the hearer a doctor, a third party? Are they using just an ear, an analog stethoscope, an amplifying stethoscope?
Uncle Bricker is too busy gargling the scrote of white supremacy to give a shit. I swear to God, if Matthew 7:6 were wet, it’d everywhere. To have Bricker tell it, every issue can be boiled down to partisan bickering between Republicans vs. Democrats. You can tell it how he, like most white supremacists, use their political affiliation and religiosity as both a sword and shield of victim-hood. You can tell it by how quickly he clutches his pearls when his white supremacist talking points are challenged. The problem with Bricker is that he’s indoctrinated, in part, through earning a doctorate in the rulebook of white supremacy. The vast majority of law that exist in this country was written by and for white folks. Yet, Bricker believes the law is just, fair, and objective. He cannot countenance the fact that racism is baked into these tactics of voter suppression because, in fact, he worships at the altar of white supremacy. Can’t bite the hand that feeds you. And, I get it. If I were lawyer, got paid by white folks, got taught by all white folks, lived by all white folks, told I was smart by white folks, talked like all white folks, wife was white, children were white, friends and colleagues were white; yeah, I might go full Diamond and Silk, too.
Think about this. Uncle Bricker didn’t care that after section 4 of the Voting Rights Act was eliminated, Alabama legislators were caught on tape wanting tosuppress black votes;Uncle Bricker didn’t care about SB14; Uncle Bricker didn’t care that polling stations and DMVs in the Black Belt were closed down weeks before the general elections (e.g. Randolph county where 7 out of 9 stations were shut down), Uncle Bricker doesn’t care that white folks tell people of color “You need a government-issued ID” but turn around and say “your public housing ID doesn’t count”. How is a public housing ID not a government-issued ID? Uncle Bricker wouldn’t strain to be consistent because if it’s white, it’s all right. Because Uncle Bricker worships at the altar of white supremacy, he doesn’t care about these issues, and he’s not going to see anything wrong with white supremacists engaging in voter fraud. He and they are of the same.
He hasn’t been around for a bit, not posted in weeks, and hasn’t been online for a few days.
He’s probably just busy, with the holidays and such, I can certainly understand.
But, it is possible, though barely conceivable, that he has come to realize that he actually is defending the “bad guys”, that he is on the wrong side of history, and on the wrong side of all possible judges of character and ethics beyond short sighted greed and hatred.
A rational actor would see that those he has been carrying water for all this time really did intend to subvert democracy while claiming to protect its integrity. This last election has made it very clear that the side that he uses his rhetorical games to defend has no interest in the integrity of elections, no interest in representing the will of the voter, no interest in being the voice of the electorate, but only to win, and to win at any and all costs, up to and including the fate of the country itself.
He makes the case for those who would rather rule the ashes than share a paradise, and he is just barely smart enough that one day, he may realize that.
May today be that day.
Or not, I don’t really give a shit.
The recent mid-term election has made clear the real perpetrators of voter fraud, at least in North Carolina, are Republicans. And all the ID bullshit wouldn’t have ever stopped what these fuckheads were doing.
Of course, I anticipate our highly partisan legal eagles will come swooping in to explain how this is not the same thing and is perfectly okay because it kept the “wrong” voters from voting. “Wrong” of course = minority and Democrat voters.
And don’t forget the ILLEGALS. Gotta stop those ILLEGALS from voting.
“Elections have consequences”, huh?
Probably relevant: Mitch McConnell: making Election Day a federal holiday is a Democratic “power grab”
Hey, I can’t blame him - if there was a way to encourage more people voting and I thought that’d hurt my political party, I’d be against it too.
Oh wait, no I wouldn’t, because I’m not an antidemocratic shitbag obsessed with desperately clinging to power regardless of the results of the system.
If there’s one thing that scares Republicans, it’s the voice of the people. No doubt. Republicans don’t fight so hard to maintain a stacked deck for no reason.