Very creative and not at all predictable.
Look, it’s over. We’ve been to the rodeo before, and we’ve seen better clowns.
enjoy.
Shame? I wouldn’t use that word. I guess it’s a shame for people that pride themselves on misleading people, sure.
Next one-liner, please.
I’m not surprised to hear that you surround yourself with clowns. A rodeo seems like the perfect venue for your comments, actually.
It’s pretty obvious he just came here with a bunch of talking points that he was handed on some right wing website. He doesn’t actually know anything.
If they’re just a bunch of talking points with no meat behind them, then you should have no trouble refuting them. I’m waiting.
Cheshire Human?
Labor unions are supposed to be independent of the government. If it isn’t, it’s not really functioning as a labor union, is it?
Not socialist either, but fascist and authoritarian.
Again, labor unions are supposed to be an organ independent of both government and private interests. GLF was a government organ, ‘representing’ workers in disputes with management installed by the government. So how do you figure that situation to be production controlled by collective means?
You all really need to get on the same page, by the way. One of you is making painfully stupid excuses for the fawning and crediting her appearance. You seem to be flat out in denial over the whole thing.
Don’t toss 'em right over the plate then.
You just made that up. State-controlled labor unions have existed throughout history.
Fascism is evolved out of the socialist movement (Mussolini himself was a former socialist) and socialism is inherently authoritarian in nature.
Nope.
Labor union: an organization of workers formed for the purpose of advancing its members’ interests in respect to wages, benefits, and working conditions. members of a labor union with job protection under a collective bargaining agreement with the employer.
This idea that a labor union MUST be independent is pure fantasy.
Your #1 post, also in this thread, but 4 years ago.
https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17773196&postcount=127
Will that help keep the original and unpredictable comments flowing?
It should be. That’s where I said it was made.
Well, until you’re finished waiting.
At this rate, I don’t think I’ll ever stop. I mean, ‘QuickSilver’ came pretty close with his jar of vaseline comment. That was almost substantive. Almost.
The term “Nazi” is an abbreviation for the title of the party: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, which in English translates to: National Socialist German Worker’s Party.
I think it’s pretty clear they were socialists.
Exactly. The official name of North Korea is the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea.
I think it’s pretty clear it is a democracy.
Of course, the name is a huge giveaway, but the real proof is in their policies and their comments.
'While the bourgeoisie does not care at all about this enor-mously important question, but indifferently lets things take their course, the Jew seizes the unlimited opportunity for the future which is offered here, and while on the one side he organizes the capitalist methods of exploiting humanbeings to the ultimate consequence, he approaches the veryvictims of his spirit and his activity, and after a short time he becomes even the leader of their fight against himself. 'Against himself is, of course, only metaphorically ex-pressed, for the great master of lies knows how to make himself appear always as the ‘pure 1 one and to charge the guilt to the others. As he has the impudence to lead the masses in such a manner, the latter does not even think at all that this could mean the most villainous betrayal of all times.’ - Hitler
'Hence the movement must adopt a positive attitude towards the
trade-unionist idea. But it must go further than this. For the enormous
number of members and followers of the trade-unionist movement it must
provide a practical education which will meet the exigencies of the
coming National Socialist State.
The answer to the third question follows from what has been already
said.
The National Socialist Trades Union is not an instrument for class
warfare, but a representative organ of the various occupations and
callings. The National Socialist State recognizes no ‘classes’. But,
under the political aspect, it recognizes only citizens with absolutely
equal rights and equal obligations corresponding thereto. And, side by
side with these, it recognizes subjects of the State who have no
political rights whatsoever.’ - Hitler
A regular Yaron Brook…
“An organization of workers formed for the purpose of advancing its members interests”, not “An organization of government-appointed individuals formed for the purpose of advancing the interests of the government”.
ETA: In nazi Germany, employer and government was more or less the same thing, btw.