So apparently Pope Francis has determined more clinically prescribed death might be a good distraction from the pedophilia, salacious depravity and greed presently confounding his institution.
In all reality, probably not available to the vast majority of the world’s population. Who is the target audience for this ludicrous announcement? Doctor’s? Really?
What he said seems very logical and reasonable to me.
I don’t see anything controversial in the Pope’s message.
I’m a full-on anti-Catholic and think that most of the ‘look how reasonable the Pope is’ stuff is based on vapid PR statements and not actual Church policy, and I’ve even been in an argumentative thread on here where I’ve said I don’t think he’s a good person because of how he would treat people close to me given the chance. But I don’t see anything at all to object to in his statement, and it’s a good thing for the Catholic church to move away from it’s old position that you had to essentially keep torturing a terminally ill patient for as long as possible to be a good person. Keeping the shell of a person alive with extreme life support measures that leave them no quality of life is not a good thing.
Interesting: ‘Do enough, but not too much.’ … I can’t quite figure out the motive for issuing this opinion.
Truth is the silliest thing under the sun.
Try to get a living by the Truth and go to the Soup Societies.
Heavens!
Let any clergyman try to preach the Truth from its very stronghold,
the Pope-Pit, and they would ride him out of his church
on his own Pope-Pit bannister.
He’s grandstading a solution in search of a problem purely for publicity, as if people are not already aware of this issue and carefully considering the bearing various treatments and therapies have on quality of life. Next thing you know we’ll see Popespice’s popping up with low rates, guaranteed death and salvation for one low monthly fee.
He’s a day late and a dollar short to this party, if that’s what it’s really about in their deluded minds.
I’m sorry, but this doesn’t really clarify what your objection is.
I will agree this doesn’t seem that important, but I don’t see why it’s wrong.
So you agree with what he said, but you’re blaming him for not doing so on your schedule? Yeah, good luck with that.
I’m not sure I understand people who thought this guy was going to completely up-end Church doctrine. It’d be like buying a yellow Camaro and complaining that it won’t transform into a giant robot.
I mean, there are Catholics who are still bitter about Vatican II fercryinoutloud.
Most reasonable people would agree with this. The patient has a right to decline any treatment that would not promote the quality of his life.
It sounds like he’s in favor of laws that make healthcare more widely accessible to everyone.
OP, I don’t understand your objection to the Pope’s speech. It sounds like you’re engaging in mindless Pope bashing.
Except it’s important for a lot of Catholics that he make it clear that considering these end-of-life issues isn’t a sin. When my Dad passed away last year, several of my Catholic relatives were uncomfortable with the notion that he was under sedation for the last few days, as that went against the rules that the Catholic Church has previously supported. That it alleviated his suffering in those last days wasn’t (to them) sufficient reason to consider it acceptable, and I know my Mother had real trouble with this.
So anything he can do to get them on a better path is a good thing.
Thank you for the insight to the motive.
Reading the linked article, I thought about Mother Theresa’s Missions in India and the fact that the church did very little in the way of pain management for those suffering there while that Albanian troll flew around the world on private jets, accepting money from 3rd world dictators, while also being treated by the best medical care money could by. Of course, that was before Francis became Pope. So I wonder if/how the church is addressing those conditions now, under his leadership.
Someone is grandstanding here, but it ain’t the Pope.
Great, now I’ve got a Bobby Fuller song going through my head.
He had a message and
I had none
I Pit the Pope, and the
Pope won
They are desperate for something, anything to make the church seem relevant. What a joke.
To a lot of people the Church is relevant. To a lot of people, it isn’t.
I doubt this particular statement by the Pope moves anyone from one category to the other.
I shot the pope, but I did not shoot the cardinal
I certainly don’t disagree with what he said. It’s already a commonly accepted concept - has been for quite some time.
I question his/their motivation to present such a screed, presuming his authority or qualification for policy-making proposal(s) or really any involvement with healthcare - particularly when the specific forms of healthcare he speaks of do not even apply or are otherwise unavailable to probably 90% of his subjects. Certainly some won’t see it, blindly accepting another compassionate pope spiel.
I haven’t heard much about the church funding medical research. What’s up with that? Nah, let 'em die - it’s more compassionate.
Basically all I’m saying is the pope should just shut the fuck up when he doesn’t know what he is talking about, and that includes pretty much everything outside the realm of bible study and missionary work.