Thats more like to respect I expect around here, so I will grace you with Wisdom.
I knew this was some sort of low level high school debate trick, but thanks to my mental acumen Im too clever for this.
Let’s face it, and this is no mischaracterization: a lot of police protesters aren’t protesting police brutality; I submit most of them just hate cops because they are anarchists, ne-er do-wells, criminals themselves, or have been brought up to hate cops. They are troublemakers who need to be reminded that one day they may need the help of the police, and like I feel now will be ever so grateful for their assistance and feel badly about protesting them.
Consider yourself enlightened, you can move along now.
Oh, so, “a lot of police protesters aren’t protesting police brutality”? And you know this how, exactly? Do you know them? They trust you, so share they their deepest truths and convictions with you and that’s what they told you?
Or have you some other credible basis for your stern judgement?
Because they protest the death of Michael Brown. Anyone who thinks Brown’s death was anyone’s fault but his own clearly does not give a shit about the facts.
He is the president. Unless they remove him, they are saying they support what he’s saying. And the support of this shit means they need to be disbanded.
This is also the same union that decided to reduce crime stopping activities in retaliation for people protesting police brutality. That should a jailable offense.
Hell, they are trying to use their power to force the mayor–a democratically elected official–to do what they want. And now they are threatening citizens who disagree with them with causing an “accident.”
This union, rather than negotiating better wages or such, wants to act like a criminal organization. It needs to be disbanded, and we need to start firing any police officers who react this way.
That’s the choice. Fire this leader/PR guy, or the union should be destroyed and the cunts fired who refuse to do their job.
If you don’t support the protesters, then what you say in the first paragraph is irrelevant to what people are blasting you for. You don’t support police intimidation. Good. But you do think the protesters don’t really care about their cause, and would give it up the second they ever needed the police to help them. That’s shitty, and you deserve to be called on it.
You seem to think that the protesters are incapable of holding two opinions at once–that of thanking the police for doing their job while still protesting them for doing bad things. Just because they would appreciate the police when they do good doesn’t mean they’re going to fall down and worship them–aka “kiss their feet.”
And you think we can’t hold two opinions of you–one that’s happy you don’t support police intimidation, but one that is angry that you think so poorly of the protesters.
In the past, public servants could not properly unionize as we know a normal labor union, but they could form mutual aid societies and professional associations. In many jurisdictions today this still applies to police and public safety agencies. In these cases, the “benevolent” organizations with time have evolved to become de jure or de facto unions.
No at this point you and the others against me are just butt-hurt because you don’t agree with my opinion, and are throwing every pretzel logic argument at it and its just not interesting anymore. I respect cops, most people do, so just get over it.
As JRDelerious points out, public workers once weren’t allowed to unionize. But police and fire departments formed associations to support injured members and widows and orphans of fallen members. That’s where the “Benevolent Association” theme comes from.
Remember, this was the same union that used the occasion of mourning for two fallen officers to stage a mass public insubordination to Mayor de Blasio about a year ago, which spawned a 12-page Pit thread in this very forum. Even staunch police supporter Smapti agreed, saying: “Whether they agree with his politics or not, openly demonstrating against him is every bit as unprofessional, inappropriate, and meriting of official discipline as it would be for a soldier in uniform to disparage the president.” (See post #3 there.)
Pat Lynch was a very public face of that mass disgrace at the time, and made a very unmistakeable ass of himself.