Is that where Hillary fucks rats?
The baby was a LOSER. Trump’s a winner. Any loser baby would gladly take a bullet to save a proven winner.
Are you asking if I personally think it would be OK, or whether it would have the same negative impact on her campaign as on Trump’s if he commented on her ass? (The answer is “no” to both questions, but just making clear.)
You’re wrong about that. See for example Republicans Blew Their Chance to End Hillary Clinton’s Career 15 Years Ago. Have They Learned Their Lesson? – Mother Jones
If this were a movie, Trump would barely get the nomination before winning a victory over Clinton that – well, it’s so slim as to vanish, given even one faithless elector.
I recall that debate and that moment and yes, it looked bad. But, I don’t remember that as the turning of the tide. That was the nail in the coffin, maybe he could have pulled a rabbit out of the hat if he hadn’t done that but I don’t recall him every being in the lead. I suppose there might have been a poll or two showing him beating Hillary, heck I bet there are poll showing Bernie beating Hillary.
Lazio was already behind the 8 ball. He jumped into the race in the summer with 5 months left before the election (after Guiliani dropped out, this is before he 9/11 drove him crazy) and never really caught on. I was ready to vote for Guiliani and I voted for Lazio I have never voted for a Clinton in my life and I will have to swallow hard to do so this fall, if the candidate is Cruz, it will easier.
Lazio is a Rockerfeller Republican and I remember thinking WTF use is a Republican that won’t even support the right to keep and bear arms, then he was one of the VERY FEW Republicans to vote against the repeal of the estate tax and that got him my vote for senator. I wanted him to win but I don’t recall him ever getting really close to winning.
Well, he just clinched the nomination.
And he just conceded the election to Hilary.
He said during his speech that “Hilary will not be a good President, she will be a poor President.”
Yeah, just watched his speech. He doesn’t seem to actually believe it himself.
He sure did. It was never my belief that you were wrong because “no way can he get the GOP nomination”. You are wrong because now he has to leave that sandbox, where cranky old white guys dominate, and try to win an election in a country where white guys are the smallest percentage of the electorate in history, significantly smaller even than in 2008 or 2012.
On my Facebook account there are considerably more women who support Trump than men and most of them are in their twenties and thirties. I have a wide range of friends and acquaintances on my page who work in a wide range of jobs and have a wide range of income levels. Most of the female Trump supporters I hear from there work in modest, low income jobs and are people you’d normally think would be Democrat voters. Granted there are some who are terrified by the prospect of a Trump presidency, but still they’re outnumbered by the ones who are in favor of him. Why more women than men? I don’t know, maybe they’re just more willing to speak up. But the idea that Trump’s only supporters are angry old white guys is incorrect. Conservative women like strong and successful men and Trump has both qualities in spades. They’re able to separate the wheat from the chaff when it comes to allegations of sexism, and (1. They recognize that Trump hurls insults at men just as often as at women, if not moreso; and (2. They often share his opinion on the women he does insult.
I’ve said before that I’m not going to vote for Trump, and as much as I hate the idea will probably be voting for Hillary gag, cough, but I’ve followed Trump for decades and I know what he’s like and what he’s capable of, and I’ve been getting a very strong vibe that he’s actually going to pull it off, and with much broader support than anyone thinks.
People have been underestimating Trump ever since he announced for the presidency and they’re continuing to underestimate him even now. Look how his numbers have been rising slowly but surely all along, and consider how much time is still left before the election. Look at his newfound friendships and friendships-in-the-making (with Megyn Kelly in the first case, who asked for a private meeting with Trump in his office and after which both were singing each other’s praises; and recently with Vicente Fox, former president of Mexico who had previously declared Mexico wasn’t paying for no fucking wall, and who is now apologizing to Trump for his language and making conciliatory remarks and inviting Trump to come visit Mexico. Most people would have thought just a few months ago that Trump would never be on good terms with either of these people, and yet each has voluntarily come to him with olive branch in hand. (I said in one of the other Trump threads that at this rate I wouldn’t be surprised to see Hillary abdicate to Sanders and offer herself as Trump’s running mate. :D)
The guy routinely pulls rabbits out of his hat that no one ever expects, and he’s been that way all his career. He probably has as much of an understanding of human nature as anyone since Steve Jobs, and possibly surpasses even him. He knows how to get what he wants and he does it in ways that appear utterly counter-intuitive. He’s smart as hell and he knows exactly what he’s doing, and I wouldn’t be at all surprised but what a year from now much of the discussion on this board will revolve around what President Trump is up to now.
Trump has already changed his tone — he was very gracious to Lyin’ Ted and is friends with Megan Kelly now. He will get increasing support from much or most of the GOP establishment. Everyone knows he’s incompetent to serve as President so Vice Pres (Kasich?) and the Sec’y of State will have great power in a Trump administration. The GOP establishment will be able to make his administration what it wants. Even the Koch brothers will come around if they’re promised the Att’y General pick.
Does Trump want to be the Pres, with all the financial disclosure and loss of privacy that will entail? Remember that he ran in the primaries just as a publicity stunt, never dreaming he’d get this far. But assuming he wants to win, it sure seems a real possibility. Trump and the GOP establishment will be busy sending appropriate dog-whistles to their respective bases.
Meanwhile Hillary will be attacked 24/7 with Email-gate, Benghazi-gate, Monica-gate, Gate-gate and Gategate-gate. I don’t know how the debates will go, but whenever Trump feels stymied he’ll just switch the topic to one of the Hillary-gates. (And anyone intellectual enough to care about the policy content in the debates isn’t a prospective Trump voter anyway.)
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Hain’t we got all the fools in town on our side? And ain’t that a big enough majority in any town?
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Betting sites put Trump’s chance at 30%. Having made a fool of myself with earlier predictions, I’ll adopt their estimate.
Not to disparage your Facebook friends, but my sample is markedly different from yours. I have zero females on my news feed who are posting pro-Trump memes and many who are posting Bernie stuff and/or anti-Trump stuff. So I guess it matters a great deal who is on your friends list.
I don’t see a Trump win. The general electorate is vastly different than the Republican primary base. It gets younger and less white and less rural with every election, there simply aren’t enough pissed off low information white male voters out there to carry the day for Trump.
There are certain walls that Trump will hit, and no matter what he says or what he does, will he nil he, he ain’t breaking through them.
Hispanics. (See the reaction to his ‘taco bowl.’ He’s not getting them back.)
African-Americans. (Forget it, Hillary has them wrapped up thanks to the legacies of Obama and Bubba.)
Women, contrary to your highly anecdotal evidence and in line with every poll done so far. (He gets the power-groupies and the Pubs who are so broken to believing whatever tripe they’re fed they wouldn’t know reality if it shat on them. Btw, if you want to make a permanent enemy, insult a woman based on feminine stereotypes, especially given the completely crass way Trump does it.)
Anyone with a halfway decent political education. (To whom it’s obvious that Trump is nothing but a balloon filled with hot air, just waiting to explode.)
And, let’s not forget that Dems start off at right around 240 EV. That’s one or two swing states tops.
Not only has Trump gone beyond too far, he’s not going to change. He’s reached his peak, not in voters, but in political accomplishment. There’s a yuuge difference between the Pub echo chamber and the rest of the country. He’s going to be rejected deafeningly, and he deserves every last ounce of it.
Drumpf is a reality TV guy. Maybe after getting the worst drubbing in American political history, he can go and host NBC’s weight-loss reality show, The Biggest Loser.
I too have a wide range of Facebook acquaintances, male and female, and I don’t think I’ve seen a single pro-Trump post from any of them since he declared for the candidacy. There are a few hard right-wingers I know who, from their posts, really dislike Hillary Clinton, but none of them has specifically mentioned Trump as a desirable alternative.
So, my anecdote neutralizes yours.
SlackerInc:
There’s no way that prediction comes true. Like it or not, there are large portions of the country that will absolutely vote for him over Clinton. McGovern and Mondale will easily remain the standard for electoral losing, at least past 2016.
I wouldn’t say “large portions of the country,” especially if the polls right before the election show Clinton far ahead. Still, something close to Reagan-Carter numbers (489-49), I can see, but I agree that 49 out of 50 states (plus, of course, DC) is seriously pushing it.
BTW, no, I don’t put my money where my mouth is - there usually isn’t room as my foot tends to be in there quite a bit.
He might do as well as Dukakis did, but I would call that his ceiling.
Tunnel vision, you are only looking at the Republican support, while the support of Trump has gone up among Republicans in the primaries at the same time for the general the polls have been very consistent, Clinton has been ahead by about 3 points in the aggregate for months already, and in recent months she has increased her lead to about 7 points.
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton
Tunnel vision again brought to us by the spin of trash sources such as Breitbart. As noted before his olive branch was offered to see if Trump will apologize for what he has said about Mexicans and the stupid wall.
That trick, as noted before, will work with a good number of Americans, but the majority are not being fooled.
One has to remember that just to be considered by the Hispanics and many others a lot has to happen, besides an apology to Mexicans, also things like a public repudiation of people like Joe Arpaio and Sarah Pallin.
Not likely to happen.