Oh sure. Pick a fight with the Amish on the internet. What next - Scream how you hate Jews at a pork processing plant?
Yer pal,
Satan
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Shouting “I hate Niggers” at a Tom Jones concert?
That’s what you think Satan! Even a cursoy search on the web will show a large Amish presence.
They use laptops too, you know?http://www.mystique.net/amish.html
I don’t understand the logic of the people attacking me. You could use the same argument for Nazis. Not all Nazis were bad. Skinheads have a right to think what they want too, don’t they?
No, it’s not all that different. The Amish are a religious group that shuns outsiders. They are prejudiced agains the “English,” and don’t feel compelled to treat them with the same consideration they would extend other Amish.
They use the rules of society to protect themselves, yet consistently act as if they are above those same rules.
And yes, they encourage their youngsters to get it out of their system. THis of course occurs at the expense of those who are forced to live in proximity to them.
I’m sorry, but I have no respect for a group that doesn’t respect my basic rights.
Oh, yeah, sure, they can think whatever the fuck they want. But if they post it HERE, other people ALSO have the right to call them assholes over it.
Besides, last time I checked, “Nazis” did not constitute an ethnic group, nor a religion :rolleyes:
Friends,
Whammo, here claims to be of Amish background, but in another thread claims that all his family were killed in the holocaust. He did try to write this claim off as a joke later.
Everybody together, thumbs and forefingers into the salt condiments, and 1,2,3, Pinch.
Whoah, Larrigan. I think you mean drainthelizard instead of Whammo.
Whammo is a fine dude 
HAY-SUS!
wrong choice of words for-christs sake…ok, I hate the Amish vs. I hate these Amaish a-hole neighbors. I’d be just as pissed.
Not condeming a religion, a group…condeming this particular group running rampart, then hiding behind their religion. I know I’m an asshole, but hey, I’m Amish, so there, i just don’t understand your ways.
Me I couldn’t care less, went to PA, waste of time and money, as far as I’m concerned.
rant rant rant
In the Nazi opinion, they were both. Aryan and Protestant I believe.
You’ll notice that I have no qualms with most Amish religious beliefs, or their shunning of technology (no matter how sill it seems to me.)
My problem is that their religion considers me an outsider. Actions that would be intolerable if they were committed against an Amish are perfectly acceptable if I’m the victim.
I haven’t mentioned their tendency to throw dead calfs into the gully between our properties, or burn all their garbage.
In the past I had no immediate Amish neighbors, and I still had problems. Now that they are next door, the situation is intolerable. The yapping dogs, the smell of the burning garbage, the fireworks at midnight, the rotting livestock in the gully (I buried it with my skidloader) The trespassing and poaching (and leaving garbage) at my pond.
As an “Englishmen,” I don’t merit respect or consideration.
Call it a religion or ethnicity, I don’t care. THey are prejudiced against me. Around here my experience is common.
I don’t give a shit what they do with their religion, or how they live their life as long as it doesn’t effect me. I’ve been patient and tolerant, and tried to be a good neighbor. I’ve consistently been abused for my trouble, both from my neighbors and other Amish I’ve worked with.
you’re just jealous that you don’t have your own wax museum.
Oh, yeah, sorry Whammo, for getting you confused with that piece of shit.
I believe it is called the “Pon Farr.”
Well, now I am going to argue with you. I don’t understand how you can lump all of your troubles from them into the fact that they see you as an outsider. So you’re saying that if they had a more open religion, they’d stop doing these things that offend you? Or are you saying that if you were yourself Amish, they’d stop? I don’t think so. They’d still be driving their buggies, selling their puppies, setting off fireworks.
Shitheel neighbors are all over, and it doesn’t have anything to do with their religion or their stance on outsiders. They’re just inconsiderate shitheels. They come in all stripes.
I accept that your neighbors suck. I accept that they are Amish. I accept that this makes you have pretty ill feelings towards the Amish in general. I do not understand how the fact that they believe in “separateness” and treat you as an outsider either accounts for all this or justifies your feelings any more than they are already justified. Separate those issues, and I get what you’re saying. You lost me during your last two posts.
you can remove the word Amish, and you would have a rant about inconsiderate, asshole neighbors.
my question to you is this…when you comfront these folks do they tell you to fuck off in general, or do they say fuck you I’m Amish, i don’t care, and hide behind their ignorance and innocence.
either way…call the humane society, check your zoning…call the cops on 'em…let Johnnie law handle it.
just don’t visit their damn wax museums and throuw away your money.
Oh, yeah, I’m really following that logic, Scylla. Let’s see, a political party that engineers the near complete genocide of European Jewry along with about six million others, and takes at least 50% of the blame for starting a war that ended with nearly 25 million casualties compared to . . .
a bunch of surly, loutish neighbors who should have the cops called on them.
Sorry, Scylla, but you completely lost any sympathy I had for you with that one.
Just wanted to jump in here as someone with Amish connections. Although I am not now nor have ever been Amish, my father did grow up Amish and I have many Amish relatives. I don’t doubt that Scylla has had bad experiences with some Amish people, but I agree with Veb that extrapolating that experience to all Amish is a bit extreme.
There is a wide variation in beliefs and practices among the Amish. For example, my grandparents owned a car and had electricity and a telephone (though not when my father was a child). Some Amish people are very set on remaining separate from the modern world, but some are not. I’ve seen the same type of separatism that Scylla talks about from Italian-Americans when I lived in South Philadelphia. That doesn’t mean all Italian-Americans are like that.
Phouka:
You’re taking me out of context. The Amish have an exclusionary religion. I as a non-amish do not have the same rights in their eyes as I would if I were Amish. I consider that fascist, and prejudice.
The fact that they are a quaint and pastoral people, that they have what is perceived as a very positive cultural tradition, and that it is politically incorrect to say anything negative about them, has nothing to do with reality.
It is not just my immediate neighbors coloring my perceptions either. I despised the Amish before they moved in. I’d say 95% of the people I’ve found trespassing have been Amish.
I was repeatedly treated rudely when I entered an Amish store. I was cheated, and overcharged for a simple repair. I no longer go there.
They ride their bicycles several abreast on the roads and refuse to yield into single file when a car comes up behind them as is required by law and common courtesy.
If I seem prejudiced and bigoted on this subject, it’s because it has been repeatedly reinforced by negative experiences with many individuals over a long period of time.
As I’ve said before, I was originally thrilled to be living in proximity to the Amish. My prejudice has been reinforced and justified.
If every time you encountered somebody with a green hat, they beat you up, if this happened once a month for a couple of years, would you become prejudiced against people with green hats?
If somebody walked up to you with a green hat after all this would you be afraid?
When I hear somebody shooting on my property, I say “Fucking Amish!” I get in my truck drive down to see who it is, and guess what? It’s usually some Amish. Is this prejudice, or reality?
Sure, it’s certainly possible that my part of PA is a claven of bad Amish, and that all Amish everywhere else are perfect neighbors and responsible citizens. I don’t care, my local Amish are jerks.
But not ALL Amish are like that, is the point.
It’s like saying all Catholics are anti-Women, or something stupid like that.
The fact is that they are assholes who are using their religion to be even bigger assholes. That doesn’t mean ALL Amish are like that.
But why haven’t you called the fucking cops already? Geeze, have 'em all locked up!
Wow, just like every group of American tourists on yellow MacBikes in Amsterdam! These dudes need to be shot!
:rolleyes:
Dammit, Dive. You better have a new keyboard ready for me! (and wouldn’t you know, one of my coworkers wakled in just as I was falling out of my chair laughing?)
“Pon Farr.” That’s when Spock hit puberty and had to breed, right?