I just talked to a biologist from Fish and Wildlife. He said it was deninately not a nutria. They don’t move very fast and they don’t climb.
He suggested it might be a raccoon with either a color variant or with mange (eww). His other suggestion was a fat dog. :rolleyes:
He said it was unlikely to be a marmot. They avoid populated areas. There aren’t any woodchucks on this side of the mountains.
He said if I see it again to photograph it and send them the picture.
How about a bobcat? The color is not a perfect match, but there are variations in coats and you said it was moving fast. In fact, the Lewis and Clark notes on the Pacific Northwest’s Lynx rufus fasciatus subspecies (as it is now known), describe it as “reddish brown.”
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Honestly, it was you fighting my ignorance. I had no idea there was such a thing as a real snipe, I had only heard the reference made to the fictional creature and was kinda caught in an anti-whoosh when you cited their existence.
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Sorry, I meant the generic you, rather than you personally - what I don’t get is how this traditional hoax got started - I’d have thought it funnier to have the victim chasing after something that doesn’t exist at all, rather than merely isn’t there.
It’s a bit like if, instead of sending the new apprentice out for a tin of Elbow Grease or a left-handed screwdriver, he was sent out to ask for something that exists, but isn’t in stock at the store. It falls a bit flat.
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Sorry, I meant the generic you, rather than you personally - what I don’t get is how this traditional hoax got started - I’d have thought it funnier to have the victim chasing after something that doesn’t exist at all, rather than merely isn’t there.
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Lewis Carroll wrote a poem about a hunt for a non-existent beast, called The Hunting of the Snark (that word itself now with a rather different meaning in internet times).
I wonder, given the similarity of the subject and the monosyllabic word starting in “SN”, if this hasn’t just become mutated over time.
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How about a bobcat? The color is not a perfect match, but there are variations in coats and you said it was moving fast. In fact, the Lewis and Clark notes on the Pacific Northwest’s Lynx rufus fasciatus subspecies (as it is now known), describe it as “reddish brown.”
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It was rounder, with little ears. While it isn’t impossible, I’d be very surprised to see a bobcat in downtown Seattle. They were pretty common when I was a kid, but I lived in a more rural area then. (Not that it’s still rural there, even.) Heck, we even saw cougars and bears (no tigers, though) then.
This was something I’ve never seen. I should explain too, how close it was. We have a bonus room in the basement. When we remodeled, we converted a window well into a modified garden window. The fence is three feet from the window and I was about the same distance on the other side.
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It was rounder, with little ears. While it isn’t impossible, I’d be very surprised to see a bobcat in downtown Seattle. They were pretty common when I was a kid, but I lived in a more rural area then. (Not that it’s still rural there, even.) Heck, we even saw cougars and bears (no tigers, though) then.
This was something I’ve never seen. I should explain too, how close it was. We have a bonus room in the basement. When we remodeled, we converted a window well into a modified garden window. The fence is three feet from the window and I was about the same distance on the other side.
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I, also, have never seen nutria climb. They’re ubiquitous near many bodies of water in the Willamette Valley (including in the yards of people who live nearby).
[QUOTE=picunurse] jimmmy I would have noticed that tail. I could have missed a ratty one, but that big tail is hard to miss.
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I saw a woodchuck the other day without a tail. I kinda wonder if it maybe got smashed by a car or something since they are always getting hit around here.
And they can climb amazingly fast for something as fat as they are.
My husband wasn’t home when I saw it. So, he has decided that it was, without a doubt, a Tyrannosaurus Rex. :rolleyes: His reasoning? I’ve never actually seen a T Rex, so how do I know it wasn’t. He’s not always so funny, but he tries. jsgoddess, the F&W biologist said we don’t have woodchucks in western Washington.
democritus, you’re right, the biologist said they don’t climb, and they don’t leave the protection of the water.
Bugs Cunny, no, no bloodless or otherwise dead animals.
democritus, you could be right, every corgi I’ve ever known was pig fat, and could climb anything.
[QUOTE=picunurse] jsgoddess, the F&W biologist said we don’t have woodchucks in western Washington.
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I won’t claim to be some sort of wildlife expert, but when I did a search on them I found pest control people in the Seattle area who claim to deal with them, which would seem odd if they aren’t around there.
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A Woodchuck is the biggest Marmot in the PNW and can and does climb stuff (behavior in the cite) and can look reddish and “groundhoggy” as well.
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I just saw this post and now wonder if we have a language barrier.
Around here (SE Ohio) the terms “woodchuck” and “groundhog” are synonyms for Marmota monax. So woodchucks are “groundhoggy” in that they are groundhogs. My dad also called them whistle pigs.
I’ve never heard of another animal being called a woodchuck, which doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist!
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I won’t claim to be some sort of wildlife expert, but when I did a search on them I found pest control people in the Seattle area who claim to deal with them, which would seem odd if they aren’t around there.
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Hmm. I’m surprised. You could be right. Maybe, he was just trying to keep it simple, so as not to confuse the poor, demented woman on the phone.
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There are dogs who climb chain-link fences? :eek:
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It was light, reddish brown, about twice the size of an average house cat. It had a round body and very short legs. It’s ears were small and tight to it’s head. The tail was either very short or nonexistent. I saw it climbing our chain link fence (very quickly, I might add) so I didn’t get a good look at the snout.
It climbed the fence then jumped from the top, about 5 feet.
The only animal I’ve ever seen that looks anything like it, was Punksatony Phil in Groundhog Day, but since I live in the Pacific Northwest, I’d be surprised if it was a groundhog.