I saw Thong Boy's polar opposite today, or extreme locker room modesty

Seven years after finishing university, I still use the gym there. I can attest to the fact that 20-something North American guys are much more modest today than they were even ten years ago. Back then, the shower room (gang showers, no private stalls) was always full at peak times. Now, there are rarely more than three or four of us in there at the same time, unless a team has just finished practice.

It’s fine if you don’t want to shower - go home smelly and sweaty if you want. But guys seem to be hyper-paranoid of even being seen in boxers while changing clothes. I kid you not, in the dead of winter, during blizzards even, guys run to the gym from their student ghetto apartments or the residences in shorts, t-shirts, and maybe a coat, then go straight into the weight room. The gym had to put up signs pleading for everyone to at least take off their snow-caked outdoor shoes in the lockerroom instead of changing them (if at all) in the activity areas.

It’s really gotten ridiculous. I got over it in four short days, on a school trip when I was 16. We stayed at a University of Toronto residence where we had no choice but to use the gang showers if we wanted to be clean.

Male, 46.

No problem with being naked in a locker room. Doesn’t bother me a bit. Just don’t ask me to use a urinal with a bunch of other guys standing around. Nope. Ain’t gonna happen.

I have body image issues. When I was a kid I took swimming lessons at a young age, then went on to join the swim team. I spend years and years in locker rooms naked with other naked guys. Didn’t bother me a bit.

But as an adult, if I’m not exercising enough, and I feel my body has gotten flabby & out of shape, I just assume (quite irrationally I know) I have the most vile disgusting body on earth and no way do I want someone to see me naked. I get truly ashamed of my body.

I see this at the gym all the time too. You have these obese guys who have probably never been in shape, or at least haven’t been in shape in decades, and they go to the gym just to hang out naked in the locker room. They spend hours there, never working out. They just hang out on the bench, then the steam room, then the shower room, then back to the bench, etc., etc. The whole time proudly showing the world their nakedness.

Then you get the guys who work out religiously, sculpting their muscles but they can never get good enough. They sneak into the locker room, quickly change clothes, cover themselves at all times with towels, wait for the shower room to be empty to use, or won’t use it at all.

It’s not always prudishness, sometimes it’s outright shame.

I think everybody can guess what I’m going to say.

First, penis shmenis. That was no he. What you’ve described is a clear case of a pre operative transexual. She transferred from a different school district when she began to live fulltime as a girl. Naturally she was very private. She feared discovery.

The semi-autobiographical webcomic Venus Envy has a protagonist who will not change in gym for the same reason.

Male 27

Never get nakkid in a locker room. I just change into some workout shorts and hit it. When I’m done, I’ll change back into my jeans and head home to take a shower. Not a shy person, but I am quiet.

I think you got something here, Crazy. Some years ago I faced the ultimate “getting naked in front of other people” test. I took several classes in massage, eventually getting certified. The classes were mixed sex, with all four preferences well represented (this being Bay Area California), and the vast majority over thirty. There was no furniture; a typical class session was everyone sitting on the carpeted floor in a loose circle for a lecture or demo, then we’d set up the tables to practice on each other. For the practice, most of us opted to be nude. A few would keep on their briefs, which was fine; I never heard any comments or teasing one way or the other. The weird part was, clothed was fine, naked was fine, but in the act of disrobing, it was “keep your eyes to yourself.” Shy about awkward positions, perhaps?

DD

In high school, when we changed everyone would just look at the wall or something. We were all at least semi-modest and got out of there as soon as we were done changing. The gym teacher did say we could use the showers if we wanted, but there wasn’t a chance that we would.

I do remember one time when we went to the pool in the city a couple years ago, about 11 of us, all girls, and on the way in we all took turns using the three toilet stalls to change. On the way out, there was more people coming in after us, and they just stripped right in front of us (in case you’re wondering, I did not have my glasses back on yet, and being quite near-sighted, I didn’t see anything that would bother me besides the fact that they were naked in front of others). I think we were all a little shocked by that one.

I can handle changing clothes in front of others, but my underwear is staying on.

I don’t care who see’s me naked in a locker room, I’m not very modest in that respect and maybe it’s because I have gone 18 years never having my own bedroom. The only time I will do the “extreme locker room modesty” thing is when my weiner plays hide and seek or if somebody is taking the curiosity glance and turning it into the curiosity stare.

Male, late 20s.

No one showered after gym at high school. It just wasn’t done. In my early teens I was in cadets, and spent several summers at camps with group showers. This wasn’t a big deal then, and even today I wouldn’t hesitate to use a group shower if needed. However some modesty/hang-ups must be present as I don’t walk around the locker room with my junk swinging in the breeze. I’ll cover with a towel when going from my locker to the shower, but I don’t mind being seen naked in the shower or at my locker.

I am pee-shy though. Odd that…

He pees sitting down, right?

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Female, 26.

I am fairly modest about dressing and undressing. I don’t like people to see me naked unless it’s absolutely necessary, and I am somewhat prudish about other people’s nudity. In high school, I had swimming first period sophomore year and generally the girls would wear their swimsuits under their clothes, and then after class, we would rinse off under the showers still in our suits (we had the gang shower arrangement) and then change in the locker room or in the bathroom stalls. I changed in the locker room itself, because I was usually talking to my best friend and we saw no need to stop chatting just to change. Anyway I knew no one was looking at me. Had they been, I would changed in a stall. In last two years of high school, I would change in a bathroom stall if the locker room was crowded, or beside my locker if it wasn’t.

Did she drop out, or did she disappear entirely, transferring to yet another school district? This is a common tactic for transsexuals who transition young: change school districts at transition, and transfer again (and again if necessary) every time you get outed. Works best when parents are compassionate and well-enough financed to afford to move relatively frequently (which is to say, for a rather small proportion of transsexuals). Of course, she may simply have dropped out entirely and turned to the streets. Or she may simply have killed herself. That’s also a common response to being outed.

18, female. I used to be horrified of any sort of non-fully-clothed-ness in front of others (the more I was covered, the better). Changed in the bathroom stalls in the locker rooms from the first day I had to change for PE (7th grade) 'til the end of freshman year in HS. We never showered.

Then I went on a 5-week backpacking trip with 5 other girls and 3 guys. By the end of it, I’d lost all qualms about changing (outer, not under) clothes in front of other people.

My dorm is a double, but divided (there’s a full wall between my roommate and me). unless one of us just got out of the shower (thus, full nudity), we don’t usually bother to close the dividing door to change. In the locker room down at the gym, I usually put on undies, pants, and bra in the enclosed (teeny) changing area behind the shower curtain. Shirt can wait.

Male, 30. In short, I used to be body-shy, but I’m not at all anymore. If I had to be naked in public for some reason only two things would give me pause: 1) I’m a grower, not a shower; 2) If everybody else wasn’t naked too I’d feel a bit weird, like showing up to a party in shorts and a t-shirt when everyone else is wearing formal dress.

I used to be shy when I first started doing sports. A year on the swim and springboard diving teams cleared that right up. Speedos are smaller (and tighter) than my underwear and most swim meets have at least 100 to 200 people watching, if you include both spectators and competitors. Some of the schools we visited in competition did not have enough space in the locker room to hold all of us so we often had to change on the deck. Which means at the side of the pool, in full view of everyone there. Newbies quickly learned how to wrap a towel so that a sudden unexpected tug would not put them on display.

Since swim season is (inexplicably) from January to May, we were usually much more worried about getting warm under the heaven-sent hot running water than about modesty when we showered. You also wanted to get completely dry and warm afterward, so stripping off your suit was pretty normal. Some guys, usually the new ones, changed under a towel even in the locker room, but we got so used to the situation after a while that most of us rarely bothered by the second year.

Looking at the team photos, I can’t imagine why I was self conscious about my body. If I’d known then how (comparatively) good I looked without clothes on I don’t think I could have resisted using my powers for evil. I recently got myself back in some semblance of good shape. It took six months of being very good about what I ate and working out almost every day before I felt kind of satisfied. I still look only about half as good as I did then.

I’ve been living in Japan for the last four years and Japanese bathing customs have killed the little modesty I had left. If you live in Japan, you will eventually visit a public bath. Bathing is practically a national pasttime. Japanese custom at onsen or sentou (two kinds of public baths) is to scrub yourself under a shower or using buckets of water from the bath in a bathing area separate from the tub, clean yourself completely in the bathing area before you enter the tub so that you aren’t getting the tub water dirty, then get into the bath and soak for a while. The bath looks kind of like a big hot tub. Some of them are even as big as a small swimming pool.

This is done in the presence of lots of other naked guys and kids who come with their parents. Japanese are often very curious about non-Japanese people since more than 95 percent of the population shares the same race and culture. Cue lots of curious stares and not-so-subtle glances to see what “it” looks like. At least the curiosity is non-sexual, so I don’t have to fend off interested looks, unlike some health clubs in the US. C’mon guys, it’s a gym, not a bath house.

Mixed-sex public bathing used to be the norm in Japan but has not been practiced widely for quite a long time now. There are a still few onsen left that don’t have segregated pools though. I’ve been to one once. Now, before you get the wrong idea, there’s nothing sexual about Japanese bathing in the first place. In the second place, a gaggle of 80-something grannies is not my target audience. Knowing how brutally outspoken old women can be I was grateful I couldn’t understand some of what they were saying. What I could understand was quite enough to make me red from more than the near-boiling water.