:rolleyes: Yes, it is.
And here’s his birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser (bottom LH corner of page).
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:rolleyes: Yes, it is.
No, it’s not. It’s something posted on the internet. The Governor has sealed the document in question until 1 day after the election. The guy challenging this in court has some convoluted case that it is a fake document. My eyes glazed over reading about it and I don’t think there is anything to it. However, as I stated before, this makes it look bad for Obama.
It’s not like it would matter if the guy proved it the next day upon release. The next President doesn’t take office until next year. Sealing the records until Nov 5th was a stupid thing for the Governor to do.
Cite? 'Cause I keep seeing variations of the above floating around the Internets, but I can never seem to trace it back to any source more credible than WorldNetDaily or Jerome Corsi or some shit.
Got anything like a cite for this, Sparky?
Do you have a cite for this claim that isn’t just an unsupported allegation to that effect by well-known anti-Obama right-wing author Jerome Corsi?
I have seen reposts of Corsi’s article all over the place, but I haven’t been able to find any independent confirmation that any kind of “sealing” process took place on Obama’s birth certificate.
As far as I can tell, the document is simply being withheld from outside investigators in accordance with standard confidentiality policies, which permit only the individual in question or close family members to get copies of a birth certificate. That’s how it operates in most states AFAIK, not just Hawaii.
We’re talking about Republican governor Linda Lingle, who gave Sarah Palin a tongue bath at the RNC here? Dang, that Obama is good.
FYI this page details who can request a copy of the BC:
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0018.htm
And here you can see Obama’s BC with clear pix of that “raised seal” of which the wingnuts keep screaming about the purported absence.
I think the nuts are asking for a copy of the original birth certificate - the one filled out back in 1961. The one that’s pictured on the Internet is a document created eleven years ago. However, I think most people don’t have their original, and when they need a copy for some official purpose, the county clerk generates another piece of paper instead of copying the old original.
All I had was a newer form, until a couple of months ago when my dad died, we found my old originally-issued one in his belongings. Mine is also from 1961, BTW.
Nope, can’t fool me. That’s a raised seal, but it’s not the raised seal.
So is Magiver coming back to the thread? Is the factcheck.org post not proof enough for you?
[quote=“Magiver, post:122, topic:468002”]
There’s nothing to seal. Hawaii law says birth certificates are not public record and can only be requested by an interested party. Interested parties are defined on this page from the Hawaii Department of Health website.
I did a search for Obama birth certificate sealed and the only sites that mention it are blogs and far right sources like WorldNetDaily. No legitimate news source came up.
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Yes it is.
The “certificate of live birth” is exactly what I was given for all my kids. I know the wingnuts try to scream that it’s not the same as a birth certificate, but it is.
“Natural born” clearly means that candidates who were born by C-section are inelgible. Vaginal deliveries only!!
But “Certificate of Live Birth” is clearly NOT the same as “birth certificate.” One has two words, one has four words. How can they possibly be the same? Are you SERIOUSLY trying to say that 2 is the same as 4?!!!?! :dubious::dubious::dubious::dubious:
parody, for the whoosh-inclined
Absent a citation from Magiverthat confirms his theory that “The Governor of Hawai sealed Obama’s birth cirtificate until after the election”, can we now consider this statement to be inoperative?
Can I further request that Magiver stop saying it? And can he also stop using the phrase “no it isn’t” as if it is a penetrating argument? I feel like I’m in a Monty Python sketch. I mean, it really does become comical:
Poster 1: Here is a link to a site with photographs, and documented evidence that pretty much conclusively says that Obama’s birth certificate as pictured is the real, authentic deal.
Magiver: No it isn’t
Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes!
Lay on, MacDuff! And damn’d be he that first cries, “Hold! Enough!”
No it isn’t.