I Start Law School Next Week...

…and I’m 41, and I haven’t attended university in about, oh, 17 years or so, give or take.

panicpanicpanicpanicpanic

I’m having a huge attack of the I’m not smart enough/I’m too old for this/surely they let me in on a whim’s.

OTOH, this is for me, right? I have a career, I’m not giving it up (working full time through all this, too, because I clearly am insane.) So if it doesn’t work out, oh well.

…except I’ve wanted to be a lawyer since I was very little, watching The Paper Chase on TV. But things happened, I listened to the wrong people, and I ended up with a degree in English, then a bad mistake marriage, then a kid and now it looks like I’m getting a do-over. So why not?

Sorry so disjointed, but I’m terrified.

Any other older law school going Dopers out there? Tell me I can do this!

IANAL, but I’ve gone back to college as an adult. Not to the extent you are doing, though, and I applaud you for taking the plunge. YAY, GLEENA!!!

A friend did go to law school as an adult, though, and made it through successfully. He was married, had 2 kids in school, and managed the family’s restaurant. So it’s possible.

I bet you won’t be the only one there who’s not a 20-something, though. Law school seems to appeal to some people, and a few extra years doesn’t make that yearning go away. One thing it can do is give you a bit of maturity and perspective that those kids won’t have.

So get in there and show them what you got, Gleena, and make us dopers proud!

A couple of my good friends in law school were (euphemistically speaking) “non-traditional students.” They made it through just fine–one has her own private practice, and the other, last I heard, was the dean of the law enforcement program at a local community college.

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My older sister graduated law school at the age of 50. So, yeah, you can do it. :slight_smile:

Sure, you can do it. I’m not particularly sure why you would want to, tho.

When I was in law school, we had some older folks who had been out of school for a while and did quite well. In fact, I wish I had taken some years off to work first instead of going straight from undergrad. Or not gone at all.

Just don’t be the annoying old person in your section who is talking ALL THE TIME about your “life experience.” Ugh. Every class has one.

Yes, you are crazy, but take heart, you are not alone or all that unusual. I dropped a ten year career in IT to go to law school. I was in my early thirties and I can guarantee that you will not be the oldest in your law school class. We had a father who was going to law school because his son had done it and liked his new career.

Here a few bits that helped me:

  • Find a study schedule and stick to it. I spent many Sundays in the library that I wanted to spend with my family. But we all knew that was blocked out as school time and made use of the free time we knew we had.

  • Find good sources for outlines. In all probability many of your classes will have outlines floating around, get them. Verify the outline is still good and use it. But if you don’t feel good about an outline, drop it and do your own.

  • At some point during your orientation there was probably a talk from a counselor or some other mental health professional, hopefully one who is on campus and provided by the school. DO NOT HESITATE TO MAKE USE OF THEM. Trust me. They have seen it all and can help.

  • Don’t let others put pressure on you, as you will be putting enough pressure on yourself.

Don’t hesitate to come here. There are plenty of lawyers around here, we can help.

You wouldn’t have been the oldest person in my class, not by a decade. Being a lawyer is kind of sucky, but law school is fun, and it isn’t nearly as hard as the day students pretend it is. It just requires some minimal effort, which the 22-yr-old liberal arts majors that make up the bulk of the full-time law student population never had to supply in school before. But when I say minimal, I pretty much mean it – go to class every day and do all the reading in your first year. The reading takes forever at first, but very quickly you learn how to do it, and then it takes a lot less time.

–Cliffy

Right here.

Gleena, you’ll do just fine. Take it from one who has been there and done just that.

I started law school when I was in my 40s too. Like you, I was looking forward to it, but also wondering what I was getting myself into, especially as an older student. In fact, I seem to recall posting that question here on the SDMB, and from that thread, I got a lot of good advice.

First of all, you’re smart enough. If you weren’t, you wouldn’t have been admitted to the school. It’s been said that the hardest part of law school is getting admitted, so you’re over that hurdle. Next, you bring a certain maturity and discipline with you–these, you’ve collected through life experience. You’re more likely to know how to work hard and smart, rather than just plain hard.

So who will you find? Most of your classmates will be younger than you, but some will be roughly the same age, or even older. True, I found I had a lot in common in ordinary conversation with my older classmates (we could talk mortgages, spouses, what returning to school after years was like), but I also enjoyed getting to know my younger classmates–they made me feel young again, even though physically, I couldn’t keep up in some ways (for example, I didn’t dare attempt to play hockey with them). You’ll also find some professors who are about your age, or even younger, and some of these may surprise you–one or two of mine who fell into this category had only ever studied law, and were interested in hearing what else one of their contemporaries had done while they were studying. There was a certain amount of respect from all the faculty though, simply because I was a non-traditional student who was returning.

The work? Hope you like reading! But you knew that already. Seriously, my experience was that it was sort of like The Paper Chase. Most professors weren’t like Professor Kingsfield, and most lectures did not use the Socratic Method. Oh, there was often a “Who can tell us the facts in Smith v. Brown?” asked of the class, but not directed at any single student. Again, your maturity and discipline will serve you well here in doing the required readings and keeping up, and in offering answers confidently and calmly when you can.

Social events and clubs? Participate in them. Not only will you get to know all your classmates of all ages this way, but like anybody else, you’ll need a break from nonstop studying. Parties and pub nights are fun, but don’t forget things like the school paper, the annual charity show, and so on. Remember also that the there will be plenty of things to do through the university to which the law school is attached–gyms, pools, and other facilities.

Study groups? Get into one. Yes, they exist, just like in The Paper Chase, and you would do well to join one. First of all, brainstorming concepts learned in class with other classmates will help you learn them; but secondly, you’ll make friends. I still keep in touch with a few of the folks in my first-year study group.

Overall, I think you’ll be just fine. Like I said, I’ve been there-done that too, so if you have any further questions just ask or PM. I’d be happy to help.

Hey Gleena, you are gonna do great!!! And as a law school grad, I can tell you that you are certifiably bat-shit crazy! :slight_smile:

I went to George Mason School of Law, which catered to “non-traditional students,” with their night program. Many of those students made the best study partners, because they had some real life experience that seasoned their thoughts. They also tended to have excellent work ethics.

My only advice is, READ, READ, READ, and then read some more. And if you have a Bar/Bri center or office close to your school, take advantage of their 1L reviews for property, torts, contracts, etc… I remember going to the reviews and all the sudden everything made sense.

By the way, one of my colleagues at the PD’s office went to law school at 50. She had also been an airline stewardess, Miss Florida USA, and married three times. She graduated number 2 in her class, and was the editor of the law review.

GOOD LUCK MY DEAR!!!

I’m not a law student, but I am 41, and I don’t really have any advice. Sorry. But I did want to say that I think that what you’re doing rocks, and I admire you. I have no doubt you will be successful. Good luck, not that you need it, you’ve got this!

IMO, law school is little more than a ticket into the game. If you want to be a lawyer, you have to spend the time in law school. That’s about it.

In the first year they teach you some vocabulary , some concepts, and some research. But after that, little is of any practical use to the practice of law.

BTW - have you checked out the placement/retention stats for the legal field lately?

If you don’t have it already, get a copy of Getting to Maybe. My first year grades would have been very different indeed if I had read it before I started law school instead of most of the way through. Writing a law school exam is very different from the exams I took in college and grad school.

I was not as old as you are when I started, but I was older than most of my fellow students (I think I was 31 when I started). I concur with Cliffy that it’s not as hard as the youngsters will try to make you believe, and I went to Harvard, so it was not an “easy” school. (I also worked half-time while going to law school full-time, all three years.) Show up and do the reading and you will be fine.

I never used someone else’s outline, because the process of making mine was the best way to study for me. But there’s no shame in using an outline if it works for you.

How old is your kid? Do you have sole custody? You will need to figure out a way to do your reading and still spend time with him/her.

I have no doubt that you will be able to succeed in law school. Law school is quite intellectually challenging and it can even be fun. Hell, education in general is fun.

Just cross your fingers that your classmates are tolerable.

However, what I would ask you about is do you know what you want to do after law school? I see your desire to be a lawyer originates in The Paper Chase. Well, first of all that was a movie. And second of all, it was a movie about going to law school, not a movie about being a lawyer.

Going to law school and being a lawyer are two very different things. Have you explored what potential careers you might find yourself in after law school? Have you spent time with lawyers to find out what their work and their lives are like? I would strongly recommend it.

I quite enjoyed law school. I did not like the practice of law in a large, traditional law firm. I have some friends who have started solo practice and I might find that more to my liking, but I still wouldn’t choose law practice over what I’m doing now.

I think it’s worth it to spend some serious time thinking about what comes after law school, and more important, trying to find out exactly what being a lawyer is like, before you have spent money on it.

Echoing that there were older students in my class who did fine in school. Your job options afterward may be more limited, however. The big firms prefer to hire young people and work them for insane hours that they don’t expect an older person to stand for.

Smaller firms and government will likely be more inviting options.

Don’t go, no jobs, die alone.

-QB, proud law school dropout.

Seven years ago, I had no law degrees and a couple of ideas of what law is. Seven years later, I have a couple of law degrees and no idea of what law is.

Enjoy. Its the best days of your life.

My best advice: get a good study group - a group of smart, motivated people you genuinely like and enjoy hanging out with. Ten years later I’m still close friends with my study group from law school, and most of us say we wouldn’t have made it through without the others.

Thanks so much for the encouragement guys! I registered last night and got all weird, but I’m back to fine today.

To all who asked about jobs - I’m in Australia, it’s a bit different over here, job wise. I’m not that worried at all - and I have a bit of an opportunity to slot in with the company I work for, if it comes to that, although in house is not really what I want to do. Even if I get through and never practice, I’m ok with that as well. My first challenge is to get through school and do my absolute best - not my strong suit the first time around.

Dinsdale: I want to go because I want to - I’m in a financial and personal position to try it. If I hate it, then, oh well, I do - but I tried it and I won’t die wondering what kind of solicitor I’d be.

Spoons: Thanks heaps for your generous offer of a PM and good advice, I might take you up on that once I get started.

asencray: I get that The Paper Chase is a movie (although I used to watch the TV show). I was a very, very little kid then, too. I just mention it as that’s where it started. I’ve worked in credit for years and then in personal insolvency. I have a good idea what lawyers do, at least in those fields. I’ve also done a lot of work on my own cases. I’m currently involved in a massive insolvency of one of our own customers, and I’ve spent the last year working with the one of the biggest law firms in Australia. This will be interesting for me because I have little (some, but little) experience with Australian law, so I find it even more interesting.

ENugent: My son is almost 15. Whilst I do have custody I’m also remarried, and he is in boarding school for reasons unrelated to my returning to school. He utterly loves it there, and I do and will continue to make as much time for him as he wants when he’s home, plus I speak to him by phone or Facebook nearly daily. Although, if you’ll note that he’s 15, and he’s getting away from wanting to spend heaps of time with me. We do it in short blocks, these days. :slight_smile:

A couple of general points: I have no intention of doing the big law firm thing - I’m not in it for the money at this stage. I’m thinking either insolvency or family law, although I really have two years or so before I have to totally commit.

We’re forced into study groups - my hope is I get a serious one.

Thanks so much again, guys. I appreciate it. :slight_smile: