By the way, I am loving this discussion with you guys. 
Visible spirits, obviously. The next time you’re in Portland, I’ll treat you to some excellent examples.
Because your belief is extraordinary, literally extra-ordinary, because it demands that we accept there is an invisible world inhabited by invisible spirits. Your belief system says every outlandish mythology anyone can imagine must be true, unless I can disprove it. What a chaotic world you live in!
“Whales speak French at the bottom of the sea!” Prove me wrong; otherwise, my anecdote is intellectually equivalent to your skepticism.
If you want to get technical, all claims demand evidence. In practice, most claims are so plausible that people just accept them.
For example- I live in Philadelphia.
You could demand a cite and argue over what an acceptable bit of evidence would be. But seeing as how I’ve talked about living in Philly in many other posts and that it’s a fairly plausible claim, no other poster has ever challenged me on it.
But if somebody did challenge me, the burden of proof would be on me. If you make a claim, then it is up to you to prove it.
But the claim of an NDE being caused by the soul leaving the body and meeting spirits is NOT a plausible claim. If the soul exists, why can’t science detect it? Ditto these spirits? So people will generally call for evidence. We accept that people report the sensations of an NDE BUT we disagree on what caused these sensations. To skeptics, NDE’s are just a kind of dream or hallucination. To believers, they are proof of the soul, spirits, and afterlife.
Transparent spirits. You can still see that something is in the glass. 
There’s usually a problem in figuring out when the NDE occurred. From what I can tell, they usually take place while the person is oxygen deprived and alive, but they’re reported as something that happened “while the person was dead.”
You can define things like “spiritual awareness” as pretty much whatever you want, and I think people can gain insight from pretty much any experience. But that’s not proof that NDEs are something other than experiences caused by oxygen deprivation.
Extraordinary means (literally) not ordinary, exceptional, unique. The first airplane built was extraordinary, now airplanes are quite ordinary. To me the idea that we have a soul is very ordinary, I believe it to be a natural phenomenon and I’m very, very far from being the only one who thinks this - in other words, the existance of a soul is an ordinary belief. Furthermore, it’s a theory or belief that has been present ever since ancient history (Off the top of my head I can think of Socrates, as one who believed in existance of a soul). So the existance of souls is believed by a whole lot of people all over the world and it has been present since ancient times. I fail to see what is so extraordinary about it and the fact that you do not believe in souls does not make believing in them an extraordinary fact.
Now that I ruled out that the belief on the existance of souls is extraordinary, let’s analyse invisibility. Do you mean to affirt that everything that is invisible is also inexistent? I would be very carefull with that affirmation.
My world is the same as your world. Unless you are an alien. 
My life is actually very peacefull. I love reasoning and logic and I base my action on ethics and morality. Nope… no chaos here so far.
The belief in spirituality is only turned chaotic and harmfull when ill willed people invent trecherous, blinding religions to suck the believers in, to exclude or persecute non believers or to gain riches. But anything man puts it’s hand on can either turn good or bad. When you sayd outlandish mythologies I thought of cyclops, minotaurs and fauns… I do find them fascinating but they don’t really compute into my beliefs, sorry to dissapoint you.
The link bellow are Wales comunicating at the bottom of the sea. You can find many in YouTube. I speak some French and I can assure you that the wales in these videos aren’t speaking French.
Why not? Did someone prove they didn’t exist?
My point is, how do you distinguish between “ordinary” invisible spirits, and those that strain your credulty? I use the scientific method; what yardstick do you use to determine what is real, and what isn’t?
I meant, “The belief in spirituality is only turned chaotic and harmful when ill willed people invent treacherous, blinding religions to suck the believers in, to exclude or persecute people for different reasons, or to gain riches”.
Sorry for the thousand misspells I make. English is my second language. I’m working on that.
My yardsitck would have to be purely observation/experience-based Empiricism, not the philosophy of science Empiricism which “emphasizes evidence, especially as discovered in experiments”. (Wikipedia )
Since I have yet to shake hands with a minotaur and invite it to tea, I do not believe it exists. My family and I have experienced many things which science still cannot provide any argument as convincing as the spiritual explanations.
My experience has been that people who make statements like this have never exposed their experiences to actual examination.
I have never experienced the presence of an invisible spirit. What should I believe?
A near-death experience is not an ordinary event, and yes, things like spirits are “not ordinary” and “exceptional.” Focusing on one word in the definition doesn’t help. The issue is that you’re talking about something that hasn’t been proved to exist, and which contradicts a lot of what we do know. That’s what makes it exceptional.
… and therefore you don’t have to bother to make a case?
You didn’t rule anything out. You said you don’t believe something is extraordinary, apparently because if it’s not extraordinary, you don’t have to provide much in the way of evidence.
He clearly did not say this.
In other words, it turns harmful all the time. And no, the problems are not limited to persecution, greed, and religion. Encouraging people to believe in nonsense can also cause problems.
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The fact that these are called Near-Death Experiences should tell you something
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It’s convenient that Christians experience a Christian version of the afterlife
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What language does a 2-month old aborted fetus speak in heaven, and what does it look like?
I really am not going to expose my life experience here, but invite anyone to chat with me if they are interested in examining my experience. You can google chat with me: nanarita 23 at gmail .com (without the spaces).
Whatever you want.
He’s asking you if the spirits are real.
Tell me about quantum theories, have they all been proven and are they all without contradictions?
If quantum theory still has contradictions, why disregard the possibility of the existance of the soul if science hasn’t even managed to fully, completely understand the basic formation of matter?
I don’t understand your question.
I clearly did not say that. I said believing in the existence of a soul is not an extraordinary occurance. To scientifically prove the soul exists, you clearly have to provide evidence that is scientifically accepted. And how would we know that NDEs do not occur much more often than we think they do if up till very recent, no one was keeping track of it?
Ideally, people should believe whatever suits them. 
But I will take you on this last note on another post because I am starving right now and I need to go lunch.
From what I know about quantum mechanics, it’s well accepted and does a good job explaining a lot of things. I’m not sure what you mean by “quantum theories.”
This looks like a bunch of creationist nonsense, and I wouldn’t accept anything is says.
This question doesn’t make sense. It’s a little bit like saying that if we don’t have a full grip on the behavior of matter under quantum mechanics, we can’t be certain how many arms people have or whether the Earth revolves around the Sun.
You said souls aren’t extraordinary. I was asking “So what?” You don’t think it’s extraordinary or that NDEs are rare, but it’s still a big claim and it requires strong evidence because it gets into the realm of proving that consciousness exists outside of the brain and that people can continue exist after they die. Neither of those have been proved, nor has there been any solid explanation of how they could happen.
It doesn’t matter.
Whether it’s true or not? Does it matter at all?
Creationist and rife with bad science.