Idiot Dad punches HS teacher for sexually harassing daughter - Only one problem -

not only is it true, but it happened in my cousin’s school. A discipline problem decided to stir things up by accusing his female teacher of touching him inappropriately. Never mind that there were several witnesses to the event in question. He was acting erradically, was up on a desk and about to topple over. She caught him by the arm and saved his friggin’ head from bustin’ open. But as all the witnesses were students, and minors, their statements were not taken and the school board placated the parents of the discipline problem by suspending the teacher for a week

I only regret that my kids are too old to fall for it now. :slight_smile:

Diogenes is certainly living up to his name in this thread. :slight_smile:

Firstly, understand that I don’t feel he deserves a pass for his behavior. Secondly, maybe it’s that he feels his daughter would never lie about something like that? He may be in denial because it’s such a monstrous lie, and he can’t believe his little girl would ever do something so horrid? Maybe he did try to instill the idea of telling the truth at least about things of that nature to the best of his ability, and that is why he can’t grasp that she lied about it? He could maybe believe she lied about other things, but never something like that.

He’s wandering through the thread with a lamp looking for an honest man?

No, he’s being very cyinical. :slight_smile:

Not at all. It wasn’t a rumor, second-hand, etc… It was a story from his daughter about what she claimed happened to her.

The point is that the father had very little reason, assuming his daughter is generally honest and honorable, to disbelieve her. Yes, we know now that her story was a lie, but there’s no cause to claim that the father had no good reason to believe it at the time.

And, yet, the father had no good reason whatsoever to go vigilante and criminally assault someone.

Very much true.

-Good reason to believe her.
-No good reason to assualt someone.
-Definitely no good reason to keep believing her and slandering the teacher after her story was shown to be a lie.

two cases from my county - one a band teacher, student made allegations, case went to trial, the jury found him not guilty and went public w/“and we dont’ even understand why criminal charges were filed in this case”, they found the girl so unbelievable.
second (worse) case, girl made accusation, showed cops/prosecutors emails to prove the contact had been made, cops arrested, prosecutors held news conference to announce it.

then had to hold another one a few weeks later to admit that the girl had lied, they checked the ISP of the emails found it belonged to a friend of the accusor.

The teacher died of a heart attack.

and, oddly enough at this point, I just found out that our state legislators have changed the laws regarding criminal histories - in the past, only convictions were released. Now, they’ll release arrest records as well. SO in the latter story, the teacher’s arrest would be released to anyone doing a background check (yes, along w/the fact that the charges were dropped, but really with the atmosphere of boogie men abiding, I believe that folks would still consider him scum), and the young girl who perjured herself - her record, being a juvenile would remain sealed.

I think it’s safe to say that false accusations are horrific things. That sexual assaults are horrific things. I don’t think it’s safe to attempt to quantify how many false accusations there are and I think it’s aboslutely fucking absurd to attempt to claim that the victim of a false accusation doesn’t suffer much.

Diogenes, with respect I have to disagree with you on this quote:

Unfortunately, I lost the chance to have class with the best (imho) English teacher in my high school because he was accused of sleeping with a student. This guy was an excellent, college quality teacher and ran the literary magazine to boot. His suspension turned into a firing before the hearing ever occurred. And the incident happened two years before he was accused! :eek:

The problem is that even if the faculty does know bullshit when it’s heard, it doesn’t mean they can always rectify the problem. In some places, suspension of the teacher pending the investigation of the incident HAS to happen. If it doesn’t, the school’s reputation can be damaged along with the teacher’s. Besides, even if the teacher is innocent and has a completely clean record, gossips will still whisper that he/she actually DID do it and had a clean getaway.

Without getting into the acrimony flying in this part of the thread, I would have to agree with others that this is not exactly what happened: “things” did not “get out of hand.”

The father was actually called to the school and went to the office for an arranged meeting where his daughter was to present her side of the story in front of the father and the school administration (and where the teacher was not initially going to be present to deny the charges). When the father discovered that the teacher was not in the office, he abandoned the meeting and went searching the school for the teacher and assaulted him.

That is not “things get[ting] out of hand.” That is an irresponsible goon deciding to inflict harm for no good reason. At the time of the assault,

  • he did not know that the teacher would not be called to the meeting after the daughter had told her story;
  • he did not wait for any information regarding the incident that the school might have provided;
  • his daughter was clearly not in imminent danger.

The dad also went off and tracked down the guy and assaulted him in front of a room full of children.

Heinous criminal behavior which merits the pressing of serious charges. Hell, I’ve got patients in prison for two years for smoking joints within 60 yards of a church. This guy should get off lighter than they do?

What can the daughter get charged with? She’s what caused all this.

It would be fitting if the daughter were treated by all her classmates as a pariah. Perhaps then she might learn why what she did was so wrong.

She shouldn’t even get a chance to be a pariah. She should be immediately expelled. Daddy should spend a few months in jail and a lose a few tens of thousands of dollars in a civil suit.

If, as reported, she went to the police and swore out a complaint, she can be charged with a false report (known under different names in different jurisdictions). (See the “Runaway Bride” stories from last summer.)

At the time that she had only told the school administrators, I am not sure that she would be guilty of a crime. OTOH, since the school administrators are required by law to report her story to the prosecutor, they might be able to charge her for that action, as well (depending on the wording of the laws of the state).

OK, so I was a bit off in calling it hearsay. Instead, it was just an unsubstantiated story, which turned out to be a bald-faced lie, designed to hurt someone because he yelled at the filthy liar for assaulting someone else with a tasty carbonated beverage.

But it wasn’t hearsay.

Because that would be wrong. :smiley:

What about the period when she was in the administrator’s office with her father and he grew angry and stormed out to find the teacher? If she continued lying as he was getting angry and leaving to find the aid she’d falsely accused, couldn’t she have forseen that her actions were inciting her father to commit a crime?

One gets the feeling that this girl doesn’t do a whole hell of a lot of thinking about consequences.