Better an emotionally mature billionaire who actually give a good goddamn about something other than himself that another four years of Trump.
This time around it’s “blue no matter who”.
I’ll vote Bloomberg while holding my nose (or more likely, wearing a gas mask).
Does anyone else remember when Bloomberg was on “60 Minutes” and said in so many words that he’ll probably be able to buy his way into heaven? (He’s Jewish, BTW, although I have no idea just how observant he is.)
Matthew 19:24, anybody?
There’s no ‘cute switch’. I don’t consider separating immigrant children from their families by placing them into camps to be fundamentally different from separating American children from their families by arresting them directly or by arresting their parents, and throwing the kids into foster care. I consider the concentration camps worse, but not something of such a fundamentally different nature that I believe he’s sincerely opposed to it. His current position is that he is opposed to the separations, but I don’t recall any such opposition to them from him prior to his 2018 party switch, so as far as I can discern it’s just a position for him to run against Trump. I certainly haven’t seen any evidence that he has a higher regard for rule of law with respect to immigrants than he does for US citizens, and that’s what is required to support your position.
Also, the fact that you describe what happened during the “Stop and Frisk” era as just being ‘stopped and frisked’ is pretty amazing. Same with ‘oh gosh, some were even unjustly arrested’. People were stopped and frisked sometimes hundreds of times, told that they should not be in a neighborhood even if they lived there, arrested repeatedly with no charges that could sustain an actual trial, arrested for trivial offenses that normally only incur a fine (like putting feet on a subway seat), and more. Referring to the dystopian nightmare that was “Stop and Frisk” as just ‘oh, sometimes that got stopped and frisked’ is a much larger cute flip than what you accused me of.
I’ll vote for Bloomberg. If I think it will make a difference in how anyone else votes, I’ll put a Bloomberg bumper sticker on my car, a sign in my yard, wear a lapel pin and stand on my head on the town square at midnight. I’ve seen what four years of Donald Trump is like. I have no desire to see what four more will be.
And a Bloomberg who replaced Trump would be a billionaire who saw what happened when his predecessor went too far.
I’ll vote for anybody who’s running against Trump. But I actually prefer Bloomberg to some of the other Democratic candidates.
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Whoever it takes to get rid of Trump.
So yeah if it’s Mr. Super Big Gulp who makes it to November, I’ll mark for him.
Bloomberg. An easy choice.
The only two I won’t vote for (over Trump) are Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. They want to take our health insurance away. Warren is almost done anyway (she made the mistake of putting some numbers to single payer).
Sanders and Warren want all the people who think they have health insurance now but don’t to have actual health insurance. You know, the same thing that Obama tried to do, but only had partial success with.
The Republican plan is to do away with even the meager amount of insurance Obama was able to achieve.
This is not a difficult choice.
If he actually chooses Hilary for VP, not only will I not vote for him, tell him not to fly in any planes over New England.
I’m starting to come to the conclusion that no matter how awful a megalomaniacal dictator managed to become president, there are some people who will just stick to their own views regardless.
If say, Ernst Stavro Blofeld became president, then blew up most of the world, I expect a number of these people would still be looking for a candidate who most suits their own definitions in the next election to come, way before being able to face up to the need to get rid of the tyrant.
I think we desperately need as many of those as possible to be able to see their way to a bit of humility and generosity, and help the rest of us to remove as much of the cancer as possible, at least temporarily overlooking the shape the rest of the body might be in.
I hope I’m wrong, but I suspect that at the bottom of it, their mindset somewhat coincides with Blofeld’s and his ilk- everyone in the human race is pretty much the same, so the suffering is quite justified (I’ve actually heard this) - so I’m not sure how much they’d be bothered.
Whether or not you’re a fan of Bloomberg (I’m not), if he actually gets the nomination, it would be great if many of us would take the blinders off a little, and be able take some notice of, for instance, the fact that he and the thug-in-chief came from completely different backgrounds, and had taken completely different paths to ‘rise’ to their positions. Or take into account the difference between their stands - and actions - on critical climate issues- it should be considered that the thug-in chief’s destructive actions are close enough to the Blofeld model at this point… or consider how much our system of governing a diverse population of hundreds of millions - and the dysfunctional shape that it’s in - can make any two people (especially politicians) appear and act more alike in many instances.
Or it might help to just get a picture of the thug-in-chief, and add on a monocle or small square moustache, and give that some thought; more importantly, we should all remember all the people in the rest of the world who are desperately hoping and praying that we entitled Americans are able to see our way clear to getting rid of this guy.
Oof, this is a terrible misunderstanding of the issue.
I guess it depends on how you measure divisiveness. Certainly there were a lot of people who got on tv and in the news that were against Nixon. On the other hand he won re-election with 96.7% of the electoral votes and 60.7% of the popular vote. Any president or candidate hopes for that level of divisiveness.
Wow.
What a complete misunderstanding of the health coverage issue.
It’s like you’re clutching a $10 bill and whining that the person wanting to exchange it for a $50 is taking your money away - you can’t see that you’ll be better off after the swap.
Sorry, I meant post Watergate. Not at re-election time.
As much as I resent Bloomberg for buying his way to the head of the line, and in spite of my previous stance that I’d rather vote Indie than for him, I will vote for him if he is the Democratic choice. In fact, I’d really rather he be the candidate than Sanders. I just don’t think that Bernie can win in a country where “Socialist” is a pejorative. More than that, I’m not sure Bernie would be a very effective President if elected. He is not, after all, a true Democrat and I don’t think the party will get solidly behind him.
Well fuck me, I thought Trump was a talking dog turd!
All of the Dem candidates are flawed in some way or another. I know who I am not going to vote for in the General, tho. The hope is, the Dem candidate is one who will be able to beat the incumbent by a wide margin so as to make it impossible to dispute. If Bloomberg is the nominee, he’s got my vote.