If Kerry wins, does anybody in the Bush Admin need to fear criminal prosecution?

I think we are entirely in agreement here. The justice department should prosecute any and all who are guilty of crimes. Care should be taken to avoid any appearance of the Kerry administration being involved. And our current president would cheerfully pardon anyone who was indicted who could possibly hurt his inner circle with their testimony. (Just like dear old dad)

I’m not sure you understand how Americans feel about losers. If Bush loses this election, he will be a loser. Losers do not get re-elected in this country.

Oh, I see the difference quite clearly.

It lies in whose ox is being gored, as ever.

Lying, perjury, obstruction of justice, selling pardons for money - all partisan bullcrap.

Being a Republican - criminal behavior. Or it would be if the fascist Left had its way.

We’ll see. If Kerry does manage to get elected, and tries to start a partisan witch-hunt, perhaps that will be the first big scandal of his administration when it blows up in his face. I can’t believe he (or rather, his handlers) could be that stupid, but it is possible.

Regards,
Shodan

Well not exactly what I would call a political analysis of Bush’s chances in 2008… but good enough. :slight_smile: I knew about “loser” mentality… but I didn’t think it went that far.

Extrating from that: So if the USA withdraws from Iraq they are losers ? So its better to stick around no matter what ? “neat” logic. :eek:

Notice how long it took us to get our asses out of the meat grinder in Vietnam. Note the people even on this board who still grumble about “we coulda won that war” with no consideration of whether we SHOULDA won that war. Americans will sacrifice quite a few of their kids to avoid feeling like losers.

It won’t blow up in his face, Sho. If you don’t think the new DOJ investigators will find anything rich and meaty, you have lost your sense of smell.

Can I interest you in a new cross? The one you’re on is getting pretty old.

Or you are confusing fantasy with reality.

Pretty much what I meant earlier. You all are assuming that, since Bush is a Republican, there must be something criminal going on. All that is needed is to start digging. Dig long enough, dig hard enough, and you will find a scandal.

When Ken Starr does it, it is a partisan witch hunt. If Kerry does it, well - that’s different.

That’s the difference between Dems and Republicans. When Clinton aides trashed the White House, and Clinton spent his closing moments selling pardons and revoking executive orders on ethics and influence peddling, Bush decided not to try to prosecute.

Bush hasn’t even lost the election, and you people are trying to get him indicted. For something.

Hypocrisy from the Left - imagine my surprise. :rolleyes:

Regards,
Shodan

Are you sure it was Helms? I seem to recall that he defended Iran-Contra. I could be wrong, of course.

Nonsense. The GSA determined that no trashing occured. See this Washington Post story

A rumor debunked over three years ago keeps getting spread by the right- how surprising.

The GAO report says differently:

Regards,
Shodan

Kerry had uncovered a lot of evidence pointing to the Contras receiving funding from criminal activities —including drug trafficking, which was the point on which both Kerry and Helms could agree. The relevant thing about this investigation (relevant to my previous post, any way) is that Kerry kept the investigation going in the Senate by taking it to Republican colleagues and convincing them there was something there to investigate. It was Kerry’s willingness and ability to appeal to common goals amid ideological differences that allowed his alliance with Helms and got the matter before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

This is a man who really does know how to be a uniter.

I guess that’s a good thing . . . but is it possible it might restrain him from having his DOJ nail the Bushivik bastards like they deserve? I sure hope not! :slight_smile:

Nothing better than a good reckoning, is there?

The GAO report was a hatchet job and everybody knows it. The damage was approximately $20,000, while the GAO investigation cost about $200,000. The money spent on the investigation was just one last Republican attempt to use tax money to smear Clinton.

What a strange world Shodan lives in. He thinks investigating treason is the same thing as investigating a blowjob. He can’t distinguish between one as a substantive issue and one as witchhunt material. Pathetic.

Really? Name a non-partisan source who says so.

Regards,
Shodan

Besides the GSA report itself? You can believe the GAO or you can believe the GSA. Other than that, take your choice of spin…

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So the director of physical infrastructure for the GAO, which wrote the damning report, says there was nothing to it. When the GOP bashes Clinton, where there’s smoke, there’s mirrors.

In keeping with the spirit of the OP, what about those guarding troops in Iraq? After the scandal with the pictures of tortured prisoners, why isn’t this a War Crime? Will those soldiers be brought up on criminal charges? - Jinx

Grover Cleveland won the popular vote, but lost the electoral vote in that intermediate election between his two terms. Yet, he was re-elected. Just shows when you’re down, you’re not out. Personally, I don’t think “W” will try again, though. (I just wonder if America can get some kind of 2-for-1 discount in the cost of the Secret Service having to guard father and son!) - Jinx