To the surprise of no one Drudge et al was full of crap with their partisan attack on Kerry. I am sure they will apologize. I will just start holding my breath now.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040216/ap_on_el_pr/kerry_polier_1
Oops. Oh, and some very basic facts were even incorrect:
Nicely done. Did they get anything right at all?
And the wonder why we never get any decent candidates on either side? Who in their right mind would want to deal with this crap?
:mad:
Now, now, the rumors did mnage to give a bunch of conservatives some woodies over the weekend, which, I must remind you, was Valentine’s Day. So at the very least, these guys managed to save a good chunk o’ change on Viagra… 
Well, Kerry humped somebody, sometime, so what, who cares - cause he’s still not Bush.
I’m wondering why nobody has mentioned why Kerry left his first wife. After all the shit the media gave Newt Gingrich over divorcing his wife who had cancer, you’d think they’d be having a field day with Kerry.
Oh wait … that was assuming we had a fair press. Oops.
One measly story to the contrary, and you are satisfied? Pffft. The year is young, and the campaign coffers are full. The ‘Linda Tripp’ of this case has yet to be found, but the issue is hardly done with, methinks.
So why did Kerry leave his first wife? Or are you going to play your little bullshit guessing games again?
Robin
I’m not an expert on politics and my knowledge of the late nineties political scene is a little sketchy since I was in my mid 'teens at the time but I’m guessing that they didn’t mention it because 1) divorce shouldn’t matter, nor should affairs and 2) Gingrich was a blowhard that was screaming about how reprehensible Clinton was for getting a hummer in the Oval Office while he was out dicking other women at the same time.
And speaking of Clinton, I guess the press really is wholly libera and hates all conservativel. Everyone knows how they covered that incident up.
Umm gee- it only featured the persons in question being directly quoted. I guess a person could draw a few conclusions. Unless one’s mind was already made up, regardless of the facts.
And we will find those WMD’s and balance the budget through massive tax cuts too. Mmmm, Kool Aid!
:rolleyes:
According to this Kerry separated from his first wife while she was battling a severe case of clinical depression. This is the first I’ve heard of it and I’m of two minds. I don’t like the idea of compounding any spouse’s suffering by leaving them while in the midst of a medical crisis. OTOH, I’ve been in a relationship with someone with a host of mental illnesses including suicidal depression and it is not easy.
Kerry has not to my knowledge annointed himself a Guardian of Family Values the way that Gingrich and the rest of his cabal did. It is the fundamental disconnect between “championing family values” and “pressing your wife to sign divorce papers on her sick bed” that leads to the rightful excoriation of Newt and his ilk.
Should Kerry be revealed as a Newt-level Defender of The Family then I’ll find his actions in separating from his first wife to have more relevance.
Thanks for the clarification, Otto. The only problem I have with your cite is that it’s from Newsmax, which isn’t the most balanced source out there. I can’t find anything from a more, shall we say, reliable source.
Robin
Yeah, but was she battling a case of depression as a matter of course, or might it have had something to do with the fact their marriage was failing? How many people have reached the point of getting divorce papers while being upbeat and chipper (outside of Las Vegas, of course)? Seems like if you slap Kerry around for that, you wind up with the same criticism for just about everyone who ever got divorced.
:rolleyes:
I suppose this sort of partisan bullshit is par for the course for SnoopyFan but let’s review the facts of the case:
The media actually didn’t give the issue much scrutiny at all.
Newt Gingrich is a sanctimonious son-of-a-bitch who had deemed himself worthy of taking the moral highground when it came to accusations of sexual misconduct against President Clinton.
Gingich divorced his wife when she was hospitalized for cancer. The sheer heartlessness of that act is what people were talking about.
I read that Newsmax article, and there’s no there there. What’ve we got?
-Kerry got divorced.
-His wife was suffering depression at the same time. Sounds to me like the source of her depression was the SAME AS the source of their marital problems, not that her depression WAS the source of their marital problems.
-Neither of them has invited speculation on the subject.
-There’s no evidence of infidelity on either of their parts until after they got separated.
-Very few people consider infidelity during long-term separation to be an issue; those people probably consider divorce to be a sin anyway.
The more “dirt” conservatives dig up on Kerry, the happier I am. I mean, their candidate has got a couple drunk driving arrests to his credit in addition to ongoing rumors about cocaine abuse, questions about whether he went AWOL, and whether he lied to the public in order to get us into a war. The best they can come up with is that Kerry got some nookie when he was separated from his first wife?
Excellent!
Daniel
Brutus, let’s say that you’re correct. Let’s say that some “Linda Tripp” type friend is found and she says that Kerry boinked Ms. Polier.
Let’s also say that Kerry continues to deny it. Alex Polier continues to deny it and her parents conitnue to deny it.
Now what? How do we have any more of a story than if I accuse Shrub of porking my dog, especially if Shrub and the dog both deny it?
Do you expect that more secret tapes will emerge? Videotape? Spunk on a dress? There is no criminal investigation this time, no Ken Starr, no subpoena power, no grand jury, no authority to delve anymore into this for any reason.
Barring physical evidence, as long as Kerry and Polier both deny it, there is no story and no compelling reason to investigate it.
So what are we to do if we have one person who accuses two other people of having sex, no allegation of criminality, denials from both parties accused and no supporting evidence? Is that a scandal in your mind. Is a mere accusation all it takes?
BTW, have you seen this?
The story has now changed. It seems that she dated a guy who worked for John Kerry. I guess that’s the “fantastic” story that Drudge was referring to in his initial report.
Drudge isn’t giving up his battle against the EEEEE-vul Kerry sez-sleaze, oh, no – just [url=http://www.drudgereport.com/mattjk7.htm]amending his innuendos a bit. :rolleyes:
I suspect it was a conspiracy by Kenya’s tourism board!
Come to Kenya, we’ve got lions!
Forget scandals!
Ken Ya believe it? 
SnoopyFan and Brutus: IMO it is more likely that the extreme right media has a poisoned well here. IMO a very effective maneuver, because many in the extreme right are refusing to see that possibility.
Mmm, maybe I should not help the other side too much… I am happy to see the extreme right media getting egg in their faces.
Hey Drudge & Rush! (sounds like a laxative no?)! Feel free to get more rope for yourselves!
I can’t figure out what Drudge’s latest update is even supposed to insinuate. Basically the story has been scaled back to a “confirmation” by the Kerry campaign that Kerry’s Financial Manager dated a cute reporter chick.
Will the nation ever recover?
Rjung: now, now, be fair. I’m sure Howard Dean, Wesley Clark and John Edwards sustained their fair share of wood over the weekend as well.
You know, the last time the conservatives managed to bird-dog the press on an infidelity issue, the target was elected to two consecutive terms as President and he presided over one of the most peaceful and economically profitable periods in world history.
I’m with Daniel, and if I can coin a phrase, I say, “bring 'em on!”
I am shocked. SHOCKED, I tell you! The Shrieking Monkey Brigade is giving Kerry a pass? But after showing themselves to be so willing to pillory GWB over imagined faults and imaginary crimes, I was sure that the same standard would have been applied to Kerry! The disillusionment is too much for me to bear!
Oh, wait. Business as usual for you guys. N’ermind.