Do illegal immigrants commit crimes at a higher rate than the native population?
Yes, with a wall, the war on drugs will finally be won! Yay!
Here’s a bet: if N million illegals are thrown out of the US, the unemployment figures will not drop by N. Indeed I would say unemployment is more likely to *increase *as certain enterprises in the agricultural sector become uneconomic.
I’m not saying this kind of exploitation is OK, but if we’re just talking “Jabs!”, no it’s not as simple as less people = more jobs.
I like the idea of the cactus curtain. And the company that owns Lego is headquartered in Denmark, but I don’t know that they’re all manufactured there.
If we weren’t’ a bunch of drooling imbeciles with a penchant for cruelty, we’d be investing in solving the root issue: poverty and violence/crime in Mexico.
Of course people would say that that’s not our job and that’s ifne to say, but then we reap what we sow.
If we invested in Mexico as a partner, helped them deal with organized crime, allowed migration for work, it’s likely that we would both benefit, in the end.
More importantly, we’d be doing the right thing by helping our fellow human beings.
I know, too radical an idea. If GOD wanted them helped, he would have made them Americans instead of Mexicans, etc, etc.
Although I don’t care for communist Cuba ( just better then than the offered alternatives if one was Cuban ), I will say their solutions — as when America said ‘Let Your People Go’, and El Jefe dumped undesirables in return — could be simple and elegant.
The first report found that criminal aliens, both legal and illegal, make up 27 percent of all federal prisoners. Yet non-citizens are only about nine percent of the nation’s adult population. Thus, judging by the numbers in federal prisons alone, non-citizens commit federal crimes at three times the rate of citizens.
The findings in the second report are even more disturbing. It reviewed the criminal histories of 55,322 aliens in federal or state prisons and local jails who “entered the country illegally.” Those illegal aliens were arrested 459,614 times, an average of 8.3 arrests per illegal alien, and committed almost 700,000 criminal offenses, an average of roughly 12.7 offenses per illegal alien.
2 ) I don’t only say a wall. I also mentioned a drone patrol in the skies, a rail mounted base system to deploy vehicles, and satellite imagery to detect tunnels, which are sometimes used to move drugs.
3 ) Some illegals have jobs that American citizens would take. In other cases, if illegals were thrown out of manual labor type of jobs, the demand for the jobs they had, and the pay for them would increase attracting some USA citizens to those jobs. Employment would surely go down. How much is debatable, but it would go down.
Yes, that is true. Altho most illegals work jobs native American dont want, undoubtedly a few do work more desired jobs. The question, would this have any *significant effect *on unemployment?
Maybe most Americans won’t cut grass or pick fruit for $8 an hour, but if due to a lack of supply it moved to $15 an hour some would, and by the time it hit $20 an hour you have more applicants than jobs.
Among the able bodied, unemployment would go down, and the government would have less of a burden on funding welfare.
Yes, they do commit more crimes, and many of then are illegal on illegal crimes which are less likely to be documented, or gang vs. gang crimes.
In the simplest of terms, illegals have committed 100,000’s of crimes. If removed, the simple logic is you’d have less crime in the USA. You’d have to agree with that last sentence.
No-You would have less jobs, period. There are many business that would run into the red very quickly and shut down if wages went as high as you suggest.
No you wouldn’t. Illegals likely get caught more than men in nice suits who steal from people everyday. Just as much crime, but probably fewer people getting fight.
I’m not confident that the incarceration rate is a reliable way of telling whether illegals commit more crimes or not. I strongly suspect that were you to account for economic and racial effects on incarceration rates you’d find that illegals commit no more and possibly even less crime than legal residents.
Oh, and I’m not impressed by the “by simply removing people the raw number reduction would result in fewer crimes!” argument. That doesn’t say anything about the effect on crime rate, and in any case by that argument we should just nuke the entire country - if everyone’s dead there’s no crime!
Common sense. If you raise wages, many employers would have to increase costs to stay competitive. Higher costs are then passed along to the customer to offset the increase of owner/employer out of pocket costs.
I’m not an economist, nor a business expert. I was just using one obvious example, lest I fuck up what I was trying to say by not knowing what I was talking about. But your point is well-taken.
I think your implicit assumption is less people = more jobs.
It doesn’t work like that. If illegals are mostly taking jobs that americans don’t want to do, and only a minority are competing with the native population, then the net effect will almost certainly be to create jobs for the native population.
Why? Because filling those niches is economic activity that will indirectly create jobs. Plus those immigrants need to buy things to survive in the US and contribute that way. Finally of course they tend to skew younger, which is also good for the economy.
(I’ll come to the topic of illegal immigrants and crime later. I asked the question because I know most analyses say they are less likely to commit crime. But I only have a minute spare to post right now, not enough time to put together some links.)