If Star Trek had another series what would you like to see?

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When I was in knee pants, watching TOS, it occasionally occurred to me that the Enterprise couldn’t be the ONLY starship out there exploring strange new worlds and having exciting adventures. I mean, what would be the odds of that? The Federation had an entire star fleet out there; surely those other vessels were also sometimes called upon to save civilization or fix the timeline or some damn thing. It’s a big Universe out there.

In my fevered mind, just as it’s possible to have two or more shows about Crime Scene Investigation set in different cities, it’s entirely reasonable to have two Star Trek shows of the same era set on different Constitution-class starships with different crews. “These are the adventures of the starship Lexington…” Or the Yorktown, maybe? Perhaps the Constitution herself? Who knows what was happening with any of these other crews? They can’t all just be spear-carriers for the Enterprise.

I never imagined that anyone would bother to revisit the effects shots from the original broadcasts to bring them more in line with contemporary effects standards. But now that they have proved the concept, I’m hungry to see the classic Matt Jefferies-designed starship screaming into battle, blasting away at Romulan warbirds dammit.

In this crazy mixed-up world we live in, there has to be room for an episodic genre program where humans contact rock creatures. Remember when that was a big deal? We’ve discovered an entirely new species, and they appear to be made of rock! Nobody has any love for silicon-based life anymore. Or amorphous energy. There was a time, not too long ago, when the highest evolved form of life was postulated to be amorphous energy. We know the Federation hates eugenics; but people go through transporters every day! Surely there must be scientific projects out there to advance the species to a more amorphous, energy-based state. What’s going on with those researchers? Can a galactic crisis be narrowly averted by punching someone out? Stay tuned.

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Life on a newly-colonized world, with community leaders replacing the roles of the Command crew.

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Rather than try to fix all the flaws in the Star Trek canon, I’d far rather see a new series for a different franchise.

I couldn’t disagree more with this sentiment. I’ve always seen this sort of thing as just taking time away from other, more interesting ideas.

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I figure, we’ve done the birth of the Federation. The next logical step is the death of the Federation. Show what happens when the Federation becomes to bloated and corrupt to serve its thousands of members equitably, and it begins to fracture into a hundred different civil wars. As the focus of the show, have one ship whose task, at least initially, is to keep the Federation together. When they realize that their goal is neither possible nor desirable, they become the catalyst for the final insurrection that topples to old regime, and clears the ground for a new society.

Along the way, someone glasses Vulcan, and in a paroxysm of species-wide grief over the destruction of their homeworld, the Vulcans abandon their rigid logic and embrace the berserker warrior traditions of their distant past.

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Thanks for the complement, but I think I’d be removed from the franchise somewhere during the production of the (un-air-able) second episode.

Episode 102: The crew is forced to seek the services of the powerful and enigmatic deep space trader Chimera, and his crew of 100 hot young naked women.

One guess who I’m casting as Chimera. :smiley:

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Wil Wheaton?

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Trek characters are just too like their writers, 20th century people given 24th century science trying to figure out what to do with it. I’d rather like to see them act like Ian M Banks Culture, a bucketload of space hippies with anti-matter weaponry.

So we can have all the multi-species-multi-gender screwing, and perhaps give the mad admirals (we have to keep them) doing what was mentioned above, forcibly colonising the universe. A mixture of the Federation and the Mirror Mirror Empire, the best bits of both mixing it up morally. And it fucks up a lot, in serious terms, not just simply hitting the reset button between episodes a la Voyager.

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Damn you, Miller!

Yes, a post-Federation TREK is the way to go. But I’d set it hundred of years in the future.

This arm of the galaxy is home to hundreds of minor league civilizations. Some democratic, some warlord-anarchical, all claiming to be the ‘true’ inheritors of the Federation. Not unlike post-Rome Europe coming out of the dark ages. Remember, places as diverse as England (Londinium) and Russia (Czar comes from Caesar) all showed signs of Romish influence and could make their case.

The time period: intergalactic Renaissance

The setting: Expanding, constitutional Monarchy. Human monarch with strong navy and competing merchant and aristocratic classes.

The ship: Naval vessel, clearly military with exploration sub-mission.

The characters: senior staff of vessel. Includes non-military ‘proconsul’ or ‘ambassador’ who represents the sovereign.

Location: nowhere near Earth. Earth location is unknown and possibly mythical.

OverArc: Exploration and expansion. Discovery, over multiple seasons, of exactly what the hell happened to the Federation. Eventual slide into civil war, genocidal warfare against Klingons, Romulans, and other possible threats to the federation, possibly engineered by the Dominion. Alien races tell their children scary stories about ‘when the humans went mad’.

The end result of the series is the revelation that the Federation collapsed and our heroes are the very beginning of the effort to pick up the pieces, either by diplomacy or the sword, whichever works in the situation.

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No, no fucking time travel!!!

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Borg: Resistance is Futile - Every episode is another civilization seen the day before they were destroyed. It’d have a strange Six Feet Under quality to it.

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This has a Gene Roddenberry’s Andromeda feel to it.

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Tell me why y’all don’t think that using the cast members of the upcoming movie to star in a new tv series is a good idea?

Or should we make a new thread?

Q

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The temptation to rehash old plots with a more modern feel would be too great. Do you really want to see the Space Hippie episode again? Or Zach Quinto acting robotic in an updated “Spock’s brain”?.

(Wow…I just made myself sad)

Besides, I think they’ve really used the Enterprise enough, in any incarnation.

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Would it really be necessary to have a series with an overarching “metaplot,” rather than a series of stand-alone episodes? I know they’re kind of out of fashion these days; but I also think that was one of TOS’ strengths. Well-known SF authors could pen episodes based solely on characters and ideas regardless of how they fit into some larger story arc. With the multi-season story arcs, it seems like much more rigorous control over the writers is required from the beginning, and heaven help you if an actor leaves or something else disrupts your ability to finish that story.

TOS (and to a lesser extent TNG) had an “anything’s possible” quality that was depressingly lacking in later series. Yes, DS9 opted to explore the drama of longer story arcs with some degree of success; but good luck watching those later seasons out of order.

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The federation encounters a universe where transporters don’t work because of the laws of physics in that universe. This means no replicators, no transporters, no holodecks. Time warps don’t work either. They explore this new universe in this show.

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I think the key is a structure that allows us to introduce new characters constantly while a central cast of characters remains the same. One idea that meets this requirement would be a hotel where penis would ensue as various people check in and out.

Better would be a merchant space ship. One that deals on the seedy fringes of the Federation. It would meet shady characters and ethical dilemmas.

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OMG !

The Love Boat meets Star Trek TOS…

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Star Trek: Federations End

Frankly, I’ve gotten sick of the “awesome humans and their vulcan sidekicks go out and show how superior they are to everybody” plot.

I want to see a corrupt, ruthless fascist/communist bureaucracy running the show. I want this organization to constantly dick the shp and crw around accoring to the qwhims of power-mad admirals competing to rule the federation. These are not mostly military folk but rather politician-types gone Hitler/Stalin and awarding themselves titles.

I want the federation, for once, to have fallen behind the tech curve and have to deploy ships like candy to stop an invasion from somebody. I want them to crank things up again later (they got smug and self-satisfied), but this will put a severe strain on the top-down no-money economy, and it starts to fall apart.

I want a callous telepath “counselor” in the bridge but dressed casually. This person checks people and schedules them for “sessions” if they have “incorrect thoughts”. And can execute anyone aboard ship at any time, for any reason or no reason. It’s the Star Trek version of arhammer 40K Commissars.

I want the Maquis to start running guerrilla warfare against the Federation, the Klingons are making a bundle as private mercenaries to the “leadership”, the Romulans are screwing things up for all they’re worth, and the damn Cardassians are the only ones you can trust precisely because you know they don’t give a shit about you.

I want the ship to go through weird gyrations, have to go whole seasons without adequate spare parts (anyone claiming the replicator can make anything will be shot). I want to see them make hard choices, cannibalize other ships to keep going, and have people die, whereupon they are given a quiet funeral and sent off.

I want to see a “re-education center”, where unspeakable torture isn’t used. Instead, grotesquely cruel mind-raping dog-raping baby-raping nightmare-fuel torment which Maketh Hell Look Good By Comparison Is Used. I want to see the Ship’s “Counselor” take one look at this horror and then start turning the ship against the Federation, sparkin a rebellion o’ rebellions.

I want the Federation to take itself apart at the seams, with brutal battles and a slowly growing fleet, until the Enterprise is leading several thousand ships large and small in a massive battle to destroy the old Federation. I want the crew to desperately contact every old demigodlike being that Kirk and Picard encountered to beg for help and mostly get squat. I want to see every weird alien species which wants a crack back at the Federation to show up to help, only to see half of them turn on the Federation.

I want to see consequences to the structure of space from people raping it with Warp engines all the time.

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smiling bandit, parts of that make me think of…

Star Trek: Paranoia!

:eek:

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Agreed. This is why I’d rather watch DS9 and Enterprise than I would TNG. (Also because they have story arcs…sorry Terrifel, but the old reset button on TV dramas just doesn’t do it for me. No character development, no real intrigue…). At least in those shows the humans aren’t perfect…neither are Vulcans. Despite the silly Ferengi Comedy episodes, Quark was an interesting character because he wasn’t squeaky clean…but he lived up to his non-hoo-man standards and beliefs.

Sounds like **Blakes Seven **or Firefly, kinda. :wink: Though if we go by what we’ve seen Federation Officials and Starfleet Officials do in some episodes they already have a power-mad, screwed up government.

I for one, would welcome any idea that gets rid of the “We work to improve ourselves” idea. Its stupid. Its unrealistic. It has to go. I’d have a character that specializes in dangerous missions abd when asked why he does it, does the federation mean that much to him he’d say "Nope…I do it because I gets PAID, baby!"

Nah…don’t like that idea. Well, I do , actually but its been done. On ***Babylon Five. *** Plus you said Enterprise. I swear I don’t want to see another Enterprise on any Star Trek show unless they’re going to reboot the original. I’m not crazy about that idea, but I’m kinda sick of the Enterprise always having to be “the ship”.

Babylon Five did that too. Besides, I don’t think we need to see too many super godlike beings anymore. I’m kinda tired of them too.

TNG did that too. It kinda sucked.