I’m thinking about a transgendered man (woman --> man) who marries a transgendered woman (man --> woman). It seems to me that however you define each partner’s sex - either pre-op or post-op - it will be a marriage between a man and a woman, thus valid in all states.
I think you’re right. States that do not recognize post-operative gender will recognize it based on birth gender. States that do recognize post-operative gender will recognize it based on post-op gender. Either way, you’ve got one man and one woman.
Y’know, assuming they have a legal license and a legal officiant and all that jazz.
No, they couldn’t. There would be no equipment with which to make kids. (No uterus, fallopian tubes or functioning ovaries or testes, that is.)
They could adopt kids, of course, but I see no reason why they would be “real confused” about their mother and father. Is there any research showing that kids of post-op transsexuals are “real confused”? (I’m not asking about kids of transsexuals who transition after the kids are born, I will conceed that that could be real confusing.)
I’m not answering your other assertion, but I’d like to know where kids get a “say” in so-called normal families. What exactly do you mean by say? A say in being adopted?
Hmm. Many kids are so desperate and needy for families & love they wouldn’t care.
When I was a Marine recruiter there was this girl who joined, perfectly normal girl, very good shape, super smart, former ballerina, college-educated, so-on and so-on.
So, she enlisted and was going to go to boot camp soon. Turns out her dad was a former Marine. I asked to meet him, looking forward to meeting a guy who served. So, he comes in…BAM.
A fucking ‘woman’ now. Turns out that Dad realized he was ‘different’ around the time that the girl was 11 or 12. He was post-op and I actually had a long discussion with him about a lot of things. She still called him Dad, well, because…he was Dad to her. But he was/is now a she.
I’d love to hear the household arguments:
"You go right back upstairs and change those clothes, missy! When I was a woman we never dressed like that! Pat, talk to our daughter!