If two transgendereds married...

Would it be a legal marriage?

I’m thinking about a transgendered man (woman --> man) who marries a transgendered woman (man --> woman). It seems to me that however you define each partner’s sex - either pre-op or post-op - it will be a marriage between a man and a woman, thus valid in all states.

I think you’re right. States that do not recognize post-operative gender will recognize it based on birth gender. States that do recognize post-operative gender will recognize it based on post-op gender. Either way, you’ve got one man and one woman.

Y’know, assuming they have a legal license and a legal officiant and all that jazz.

They could have some real confused kids.

**If two transgendereds married… **

The local Republican party would have a hell of a time (this coming from a Republican).

No, they couldn’t. There would be no equipment with which to make kids. (No uterus, fallopian tubes or functioning ovaries or testes, that is.)

They could adopt kids, of course, but I see no reason why they would be “real confused” about their mother and father. Is there any research showing that kids of post-op transsexuals are “real confused”? (I’m not asking about kids of transsexuals who transition after the kids are born, I will conceed that that could be real confusing.)

Having gay parents is one thing. But I wouldn’t even dare show my face on the playground if my parents were some weird genitally mutilated trannies.

Shouldn’t the kids get some say in this?

I’m not answering your other assertion, but I’d like to know where kids get a “say” in so-called normal families. What exactly do you mean by say? A say in being adopted?

Hmm. Many kids are so desperate and needy for families & love they wouldn’t care.

When I was a Marine recruiter there was this girl who joined, perfectly normal girl, very good shape, super smart, former ballerina, college-educated, so-on and so-on.

So, she enlisted and was going to go to boot camp soon. Turns out her dad was a former Marine. I asked to meet him, looking forward to meeting a guy who served. So, he comes in…BAM.

A fucking ‘woman’ now. Turns out that Dad realized he was ‘different’ around the time that the girl was 11 or 12. He was post-op and I actually had a long discussion with him about a lot of things. She still called him Dad, well, because…he was Dad to her. But he was/is now a she.

And…she was normal.

Okay, but how about if your parents were normal transexuals?

I know its frowned on in this forum but I have to say that was the funniest damn thing I have read in a long time, thanks for the laughs.

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Yeah, you wouldn’t have the balls…

I’d love to hear the household arguments:
"You go right back upstairs and change those clothes, missy! When I was a woman we never dressed like that! Pat, talk to our daughter!

Wow, that’s awfully hateful.

Oh, look, and it’s not even remotely germane to the discussion.

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If you forgot that this is General Questions, go and sin no more.

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I gotta not make funny responses in GQ?
When did that happen?

They like us to try to wait until the question has at least been answered.

Seems like it was answered in the first response, though.

That’s what I thought. shrugs But I’m not a mod, so what do I know.

Well, to be fair, IANAL, and I tried to cover my WAGging ass with a “think”. But as it’s not been contested…

Even before then. There’s no conundrum any way you look at it, so I don’t get why there was a question in the first place.