If we're supposed to like these characters, why are they such tools?

I’m afraid I don’t watch much TV, and I don’t like the Superman saga enough to watch any TV based on it.

I never thought I could hate a character as much as Ray Romano’s on Everybody Loves Raymond. Then, I saw that Jim Belushi had a sitcom (actually, there’s this dopey sidekick on the show that is even worse).

Hell, if it meant I didn’t have spend time with her anymore, I’d poke him with a stick while saying it.

In another genre - the entire cast of the mercifully cancelled Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip is in this category and the cast of Grey’s Anatomy is oozing their way there quickly.

Man, that guy is a total asshole. Why the hell is that woman staying with him instead of letting me make her happy for the rest of her life? It’s a mystery.

Is John Belushi the guy in that movie, um, the Big Lebowski? Because I hate that actor in every role and I fucking hate the movie. I don’t understand why people find a single thing in there funny.

Oops, no, that was John Goodman. The only thing I have ever seen of Belushi is Animal House, I guess.

John Belushi is dead. He was a pretty crazy guy (think Chris Farley before Chris Farley) who is best known for SNL and Animal House.

Jim Belushi is his no-talent brother, who managed to get a sitcom on TV called “According to Jim”, and I would be happy to throw him into a volcano.

That was Jim Belushi, now deceased. John Belushi is his younger, much less talented brother. His sitcom is funnier than Ray Romano’s-- that’s not saying much I know, but John’s is actually watchable–but it’s true that the characters are unmitigated jerks. In fact, the characters are so over-the-top in how mean-spirited they are that it borders on Family Guy-style parody.

I thought “Family Guy” was parodying shows like “According to Everyone and Raymond and Jim.”

Wait, you think we’re supposed to LIKE the Sopranos?

I liked him for about the first hour or so, when I thought it was one of those “Patriarch doesn’t get his family, misunderstood man child comes in and helps him discover the meaning of bonding/family.” But Bob was actually creepy. Though at one point, the family does start to dislike him, don’t they?

On “House,” I dislike Cameron. I’m not sure if we’re supposed to, but she’s so self-righteous and pushy. The episode where she decides that House is supposed to have dinner with his parents and that everyone should come along was icky to watch. (I did like that she finally took a step back at the end.)

As for “Sopranos,” it took me a while to get that we weren’t supposed to like them all. (Though in spite of it all, I still do.)

Spoilers for Sopranos–

When Tony killed Christopher this season, I disliked him for the first time. And then I had to take a step back. He’s done horrible things all throughout the show. The very first episode depicted him running down a guy who owed him money and laughing. They did a really good job of making him incredibly lovable in spite of all the horrid things he’s done.

Ugh. I think that Schwimmer did a good job of playing Ross Geller as a martinet officer in Band of Brothers. He had the exact same intonation, gestures, head tics and everything else. Watch and listen to him dressing down the men in formation in “Curahee” – vintage Ross.

And, of course, all of the “Friends” were such tools.

But I’d like to put Holden Caulfield up for consideration. Had to read that in high school and could not believe anyone thought people would like that annoying, whiny git.

Are we supposed to like Nancy (Mary-Louise Parker), the main character on Weeds? Because I cannot stand her. I wouldn’t even watch the show, but Mr. Del likes it so I end up seeing bits and pieces all the time. I find her attitude of “I can’t believe this is happening to me!” absolutely insufferable.

It could also be that I don’t like Mary-Louise Parker, because her character on the West Wing also made my skin crawl whenever she was on screen.

The first three times I read this and the post preceding it, I though it said Geddy Lee and wondered how I missed the damn Rama-themed Rush album…

I don’t think he ever actually gave it to her, did he? That would have been uncharacteristically generous of him. And according to the script, he filed an insurance claim on the diamond after the ship sank.

So legally, I suppose the diamond belonged to the insurance company that paid the claim.

Regardless, Rose seemed remarkably ungrateful to Paxton and crew (not to mention dishonest and manipulative). She used them. She knew they were looking for the diamond; she could have just told them, “Sorry boys, I have the rock.” Instead, she concealed that fact and let them fly her out to the ship at their own expense, just so she could toss the diamond away. And I’m supposed to like this person?

Batman as written by Frank Miller in All-Star Batman.

I’m sorry, but the thread is "fictional characters we’re mean to like but don’t, " not “works of fictional we pretend don’t exist so as to keep our eyes from bleeding when we think about it.”

Batman as written by ANYONE - including Grant Morrison and Paul Dini - for the last 15-30 years. I’m enjoying the Batbooks right now, but I still want to knock Bruce’s teeth out with a hammer. But especially Miller in anything. Dark Knight Returns doesn’t have quite so much of the [del]Basin[/del]Gotham City vibe Asbar does, even there he’s an ass.

Strangely enough, the only book I think Bats comes across as actually likable in on a regular basis is Robin.

He did give it to her, with the unspoken understanding that she was to put out/submit. Later, she gave it back, and left the portrait with it to twist the knife. After that, it’s hard to say, because he planted it in Jack’s pocket, and I forget how it ended up in Cal’s pocket before he gave Rose his coat. At any rate, Cal must still have been the legal owner when he filed his claim. But I wouldn’t fault Rose for keeping it as “asshole tax” (tm Marla in Fight Club), after he shot at her.

Yeah, well, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.

Re the Star Wars movies:

The Jedi Knights are total morons. They teach all their secrets to an Eric Cartman of the future, and throw away the whole galaxy.