When my wife packs a suitcase to over 50 pounds, I won’t lift it. I can’t imagine carrying four at once. I try not to lift anything heavier than my wallet.
Elliot’s reality.
when did weightlifting become intellectualism?
anecdotally everyone I work with (MD and PhD students) is quite fit and goes to the gym a lot. People who work hard and know their shit tend to value not letting their body waste away
More scientifically, weight lifting is a great form of exercise for a whole host of reasons. Trying to say that weightlifting and health aren’t related is asinine, and going on a tangent to say that people 50 years ago didn’t weight lift and were relatively healthy doesn’t prove your point, especially when you end it with “my grandpa never lifted weights and he died of cancer but I know weightlifting wouldn’t have helped”. That just ignores the facts that the bodybuilding life style of clean eating and exercise is shown to help fight cancer and that instead of 5 years of dying he could’ve likely gotten an extra 2 or 3 healthy years if he had more muscle mass to lose.
I’m 6’0", 195 lbs., 53, and I work out every day for two hours. I could probably pick you up and throw you across the fucking room. Nevertheless, I know perfectly well that most guys cannot hold 200 lbs. for 30 seconds, that’s it’s asinine to think they can or should, and that the only reason you started this thread was to promote yourself.
Now go drink a Muscle Milk and STFU.
Not possible. It started out at the bottom, with some whiny fuck fucking whining about how stupid he could be. There was no downward path for it to take.
“I think you’re a stupid meathead, so I will respond by threatening physical violence”
that’s painfully immature, I really wish you could approach this conversation like an adult.
This board is going to shit on any display of masculinity. Might as well let it go.
Well, there were those stairs.
CMC fnord!
You know how much I can lift…really? Let me know. I’ve never tried to lift. Why the fuck do I need to carry 200 lbs. Can I do it? I may never know. I’d guess maybe.
You don’t need to carry 200 lbs, but having the musculature to do so is beneficial in everyday life and makes you much less likely to hurt yourself when doing normal day-to-day activities. The world would be a better place if everyone was 12% BF, had a 1400 lb total, and could do a 5k in 15 minutes.
Then gym teachers would rule the world. I’m against that.
Okay, so we’ll move on from the how dangerously stupid you were in leaving someone alone below on a staircase holding the bottom of a leather recliner sofa up.
And we’ll pass by the idiocy that believes that holding a bulky uneven weight without any clear place to grip, precariously balanced above you, for 30 seconds, while you are standing on steps, is somehow comparable to deadlifting a weight and putting it back down.
Please note: no, 90% of the population cannot do that which takes an individual training in the specific activity two months to work up to.
Is weightlifting a (and note: “a”) great form of exercise? Of course it is. Most people would be well served by including both some cardiovascular conditioning and some strength training of some sort in a regular exercise program. And doing at least one or the other achieves many health benefits. Sticking to some progressive principles is beneficial. A reasonable amount of strength and muscle mass in the bank before aging starts making new deposits more difficult, if not causing withdrawals, will help keep one strong into old age.
But strength training is not the only great form of exercise, and competitive powerlifters are not particularly known for longevity. More bulk is not necessarily better. And this is not just anecdotal. Among those committed enough to their sports to be within the elite level powerlifters have relatively lower life expectancy (LE).
Okay maybe it’s the steroid abuse that is rampant in serious powerlifters that cuts down LE and not the lifting per se. We don’t know.
I also honestly don’t know too many aging serious powerlifters who have not had significant and chronic back or joint issues.
Lifting and likely only lifting is your thing. (Either in reality or in your fantasy; it is hard to tell.) That’s fine. I have respect for those who have that as their focus. My eldest son, age 30, is thrilled that he (weighing in at 170 I think) hit a 440 deadlift (and frustrated that he’s having an injury issue that limits his squat for now). He hates all things cardio. I think he rocks. We have many serious lifters on this board including some hitting new personal goals (225 bench for 10 clean reps) in their late 50s and a very competitive bodybuilder. We have some divergent thoughts about what sort of strength we desire, or even how we should define “fitness.”
But we pretty much all hold stupid assholes in contempt.
So with all my physical problems, I suppose your recommendation would be to just shoot myself, and rid the world of someone who’s not a real man, and barely even human. Why should we obvious inferiors be permitted to take up valuable oxygen?
(I can crack open a coconut with my husband’s cock, but that’s for another thread.)
I dunno about ANY display of masculinity. My username carries a clear implication that I have had sex with a woman and sired a child upon her. I seem to be able to get away with that okay.
Sired upon her? Must have missed that day of sex ed.
Yes, sired upon her. Git yer mind out of the gutter and pick up some language skills, sonny. Coupla months in a continuing education facility should set you right up.
good lord the amount of projection in this post is insane. I thought this forum was filled with older people who didn’t post like they were on reddit.
I said the world would be a better place if. There’s multiple reasons why, such as increased quality of life, but a big one is that whenever someone is sick, the medical system isn’t bogged down by as many illnesses that are preventable by not being unhealthy. I realize not everyone can be perfectly fit, but everyone should do what they can to improve their health, if not for themselves then for everyone else who has to suffer to care for them.
Wow, so masculine.
Now you’re just trying to get me in trouble…