Either that, or they’ll start rioting. I have a feeling some of them will when her death is announced. The Schindlers will come on TV, bawling hysterically, screaming.
And then the fight over her funeral arrangements will begin.
Don’t forget the lawsuits. Wrongful death suits for everyone in sight. :rolleyes:
Were I Mr. Schiavo, that’s where I’d say “fuck it.” Let them do what they want with the corpse. At that point, I would definitely feel that my duty was through.
What would they sue him for, ‘unpleasing burial arrangements?’ He says he’s going to cremate her and bury her with his relatives in Philadelphia and that might be the end of it.
The ungrateful bastards, bawling and screaming over having their daughter starved to death. Sure, you’d go to jail for doing the same to a stray dog, but they really need to just get over it.
Phew. We’d gone five posts without a comparison to some sort of animal. Thank god Brutus came by to get his licks in on this dead horse.
Jesus Christmas, Brutus! How many times does this need to be explained to you and your fellow “Culture-of-Lifers”? TWENTY FUCKING JUDGES have found that this was Terri’s decision in the case of a situation like this. The current state of medical ethics and case law precludes any assistance be provided her to die more quickly (and, if she were capable of being conscious to perceive such, less painfully).
And frankly, once she married Michael, the Schindlers had no more say in her medical care than two bums off the street. Michael is her next-of-kin, who has refused offers of MILLIONS OF DOLLARS to divorce her and hand her over to her parents. What motivation did he have for that refusal, Brutus? Other than a dedication to carrying out Terri’s wishes rather than allowing the Schindlers to turn her into some sort of grotesque knick-knack to be displayed in an upstairs bedroom and dusted off every Tuesday?
An interesting post from another thread:
The question of political backlash is interesting, given how deeply this divides people who usually count themselves as being ideological allies. There are many prominent Republicans/conservatives in both public life and blogosphere (including some with very established rightist credientials) who disagree with the government’s efforts and the bending over backwards for Terri to live, and have been shocked by the venom that’s suddenly been directed at them. Watching Congress try to take over the issue, and formerly loyal readers suddenly turn against them and call them “Judas” and “murderer,” have really made them think.
Who knows - maybe this won’t “backfire” on the Republican party. Maybe it’ll help them, by marginalizing some of the more extreme influences on their party. I think that’s a win for liberals too.
I think that’s a win for everybody. Given the Feds willingness to drop everything to tackle the matter of one person’s life, while apparently ignoring such issues as Iran, North Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan, the rising budget deficit, the possibility that Social Security and Medicare will both go bankrupt, etc., etc., etc., I’d say that the sooner they back away from all this mess and get back to the real business at hand, the better.
Aw bwutus, isn’t you just so cute. Oh yes you is. Yes you is.
So how many stray dogs do you find in a permanent vegitative state. Lord knows I can’t back out of my driveway without running over at least three of them. Then I have to take them back in and insert feeding tubes. It’s turning my basement into a regular puppy ICU.
You know what else you’d get sent to jail for? Assisted suicide. Yep, whatever doctor slipped her some pills or jabbed her with a needle would go right to jail.
Don’t know why I bothered posting this. Not like he’ll come back with an intelligent response. Probably won’t come back at all. Oh well.
Twenty ACTIVIST judges.
I mean, really, with all these ACTIVIST judges running around it’s amazing we find time to execute any retards.
Besides, Brutus is just a fucking baiter anyways. Certainly you don’t take his clumsy attempts at button-pushing seriously…
-Joe
One note on my previous post: I’m still seeing quite a few of those aforementioned conservative bloggers either ceasing to discuss this issue, or expressing extreme frustration, because of the vitrol they’ve gotten from those they once saw as allies, telling them that they’re “murderers” or “have a problem with conservatism.” I’m sure this last charge is particularly infuriating for some of them. I really wonder what effect this’ll have on things…?
Saw on the news tonight where they busted some fuckwit trying to smuggle a taser into the hospice. That really makes no sense at all. Even if he could have made it to Terri’s bedside and forced the doctors to reinsert the feeding tube, how long does he think that it would have stayed in there? The police have basically said that they’ve got snipers on the rooftops to take out people if necessary, so the SWAT team no doubt would have been on hand to solve the situation, if he had managed to get that far. Somehow, I don’t think that teargas is good for a person in Terri’s condition.
The protestor was tasered by police, not smuggling a taser:
Well, that’ll teach me to believe the CNN crawl. :smack:
So allowing a woman with a nearly totally destroyed brain to die is wrong, but assassination programs against villagers in Vietnam are OK, even if you occasionally hit the wrong target?
It’s all part of the hypocrisy. This time though, there is a growing backlash. It looks like the people who are in the forefront of the whole “she has a right to live” movement are being called to account, The People are not buying it. We have G.W. Bush, whose lacadaisical attitudes in Texas are being compared to his current “reverence for life”. We have De Lay who pulled the plug on his dad in less than a month (he only waited 29 days). It looks like his shameless attempt to use Schiavo in order to direct attention away from the ongoing investigation of his fund raising and general ethics malfeasance is backfiring. There was a memo suggesting that Schiavo’ situation be used to take a senate seat occupied by a Democrat. We have priests, ministers and rabbis speaking out and writing editorials saying that it is not God’s will to keep her in her present state.
Below are snippets, pasted directly from articles on the web right now - MSNBC.
When he was governor of Texas, George W. Bush presided over 152 executions, more than took place in the rest of the country combined. In at least a few of these cases, reasonable doubts about the guilt of the condemned were raised. But Bush cut his personal review time for each case from a half hour to a mere 15 minutes (most other governors spend many hours reviewing each capital case to assure themselves that there’s no doubt of guilt).
The poor people across the country denied organ transplants (and thus life) because Medicaid—increasingly under the Bush budget knife
Under a 1999 law signed by Bush, who was then governor, cost-conscious hospitals are empowered to decide when care is “futile.” The Hudson case is the first time ever that a court has allowed bean counters to override the wishes of parents.
virtual malpractice by “examining” a patient long distance via outdated and heavily edited video (Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist) or advocate breaking the law by sending in state troopers to reattach the feeding tube (Pat Buchanan and William Bennett)
the president and Congress did real damage to their own principles by sticking their nose in this mess. They replaced reason with emotion, confused law with theology and allowed politics and tabloidism to trump the privacy
Gov. Bush pretends to run the state of Florida then he pretends to be a doctor and state there has been a misdiagnosis
This idea of politicians–be in Jeb Bush or Bill Frist–diagnosing patients is repugnant
If our president and congress believe life is so dear, why don’t they govern and fix the problem of people dying due to no insurance or they have reach the monetary cap?
According to a memo that circulated on Capitol Hill, some Republicans felt this case might be a good way of unseating Senator Bill Nelson, Democrat of Florida. It hasn’t worked out the way Republicans in Washington thought. Overwhelming numbers of Americans believe the case is none of Congress’ business.
Congress was acting more like a theocracy in this case. We live by law, not religious conviction.
The Rev. John J. Paris, a bioethics professor at Boston College and an expert on the intersection of law, medicine, and ethics, believes that past statements made by the pope have been taken out of context, misrepresented as church doctrine and applied to the Schiavo case. He says Schiavo, who has a moral right to die, has been exploited by the religious right to further its agenda (Gee, they would never deliberately take something out of context, would they?)
What we have are a bunch of cynical, heartless cronies, who wanted to cash in on a media circus of their own making. When examined further, many of them are more guilty of Murder than Terri’s husband could ever be.
It’s backfiring alright. If any of these people were acting out of conscience, they might be forgiven. The fact that it is all about power, greed and ambition makes them beneath contempt. They don’t give a damn about Schiavo or anyone else. May they all rot in the worst Hell imaginable (or unimaginable).
At least once a week, in among my third-class mail, I find a little card with the picture of a missing kid on it. Often the card shows a photograph of the person the child was last seen with, including the adults name, age, and date of birth. Cases such as these are usually pretty clearly about parantel abduction, and one of the features of the alerts is that they will often give an abducting mother’s maiden name. Evidently, this is to downplay the fact that she is the child’s mother.
I don’t have any desire to cast aspersion on these types of alerts, or the Family Court decisions that led to the mothers not being the custodial parents.
I’m just curious to know when the Schindler side is going to start having everyone referring to her as Terri Schindler, instead of Schiavo.
I have never complained about ‘allowing a woman’ to die, as disingenuously as you word it. I do complain about *starving[/]i a woman to death. How long has it been now, 14 days or something like that? Don’t forget, we aren’t talking about pulling a dialysis machine or stopping some other ‘extraordinary’ machine that is keeping her alive, just plain old food and water.
The absence of sensible euthanasia laws shouldn’t be an OK to starve people to death. Cruel and unual and all that.
As for programs to deal with foreign enemies, well, I’ll leave it up to your vivid imagination to come up with some differences between VC tax collectors and a heart attack ‘victim’ in Florida. I know you can do it!