If you were NCIS director, how many times would you have fired Gibbs by now?

But that would be twice. It would be the first time and the last time :slight_smile:

You used to be cool, man. When’d you turn into a droid?

Can’t agree with you there. He’s just lower-key than Vance, Gibbs, or DiNozzo, and he hasn’t had the chance to lead much. but I’d say he’s got the stuff. Not Buffy level stuff, but stuff nonetheless.

Once? I think whenever you fired him, probably once.

How many things has he done that for which he ought to have been fired? I don’t know, that’s a* lot *of seasons.

I would fire him, or possibly just suspend him, every single day. It would have nothing to do with whether or not he had actually done anything wrong. It’s just that everybody knows the best way to catch a bad guy is to take your dogged chief investigator off the case. Being taken off a case somehow activates that extra gear that helps said investigator have those breakthrough moments and discover those crucial clues. On Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays, I would fire him. On Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays, I would just suspend him. Sundays would be his pick. On his birthday, I would suspend him AND fire him just because it’s a special occasion.

In every other episode of Criminal Minds, it turns out that the killer has some kind of connection to a member of the team.

In real life, that never happens. And if it ever did, that FBI agent would be taken off the case. But on*** Criminal Minds***, the agent insists, “I have to be part of this!” And Hotch nods, “All right. But if you slip up even once, you’re out.”

It ALWAYS ends in disaster, but Hotch never learns. He’ll give the same stern, “Okay, but…” next time a psycho killer goes after Spence or JJ’s family.

Only once. After he sniped his wife’s killer.

I’m not a big NCIS watcher, but I’ve seen it a few times, mostly older episodes in syndication. I don’t know what Gibbs has done to piss off his bosses, but I know there’s no way in hell I’d ever work for him. The amount of sniping and backbiting among the team is ridiculous; I’d have put in for a transfer before the first commercial.

I’ll agree with this. In fact, not firing Tony should have been grounds for firing Gibbs.

He wasn’t an agent then. And I’m fairly sure Tomr Morrow (director before Jenny) didn’t know that Gibbs had even HAD a murdered wife & child to avenge; neither Ducky nor Jenny did until she looked into his past. And Jenny didn’t KNOW what Gibbs had done. Ducky pointed out that it was a reasonable guess based on Gibbs’s personality (in that Reynosa was long since disappeared and that Gibbs was not spending every waking moment hunting him down), but that was only a guess, not proof. She was hardly going to expend agency resources on solving a 15-year-old cold case that wasn’t even in her jurisdiction.

The time passes quicker when Abby has help.

Does ANYONE have a link to this episode of JAG or the episode number? I’ve never seen it or been able to find it.

Episodes 20 & 21 of season 8, Ice Queen and Meltdown, a two-parter. Sorry not to provide a link, don’t know how to do it on Kindle.

Thanks!

You’re better off skipping it. Though Gibbs’s remark in that episode about not having to answer to Navy brass makes sense when you think about it, overall it undercuts his credibility, since his target in that investigation was the innocent Rabb. It makes you wonder how many times an NCIS case he “solved” was actually a railroad job.

The best way to watch NCIS is always to just listen to Ducky’s stories (always aborted too soon!) and to watch Bishop being cute. (And, in reruns watchng Tony get punched in the schnozz)

About the second time he was witnessed physically abusing one of his subordinates.

Slapping Tony DiNozzo on the back of the head is not abuse. Abuse is unjistified. Striking DiNozzo with anything lighter than a two by four is God’s work.

You know, for as many questionable spinoffs as get green lit, you would think that there would be more occurrences in these procedurals of a spinoff being the result of the second banana getting promoted to run their own team, and/or the lead being promoted, or leaving to take a different job.

Dinozzo should have gotten a spinoff three or four times, but maybe Michael Weatherly got sick of playing the character? The ending to Season 5 of Castle would have been the perfect opportunity to spin the day players at the 12th Precinct off into their own show, and let Rick and Kate move to DC

As moronic as TV execs and writers are, they realize that the problem’s one of differentiation. So Tony gets his own show? How are they going to differentiate the NCIS show with Tony as the team head from NCIS: Los Angeles and NCIS: New Orleans?

That’s the problem really.

I feel like that’s a problem of their own making, the simplest solution being to give Dinozzo a spinoff instead of making NCIS: Los Angeles or NCIS: New Orleans.

Hell, NCIS: Los Angeles should have been the Dinozzo spinoff.

Maybe, but I suspect they thought that a Tony spinoff would have been the “Tony Show”, and not something that might catch the same lightning in a bottle that the original NCIS did with the ensemble cast. It seems pretty clear to me that the other NCIS shows are very formulaic in terms of team makeup- they have the forensics weirdo, they have the lead agent, a couple of quirky but super-competent sidekicks, and the surprisingly normal autopsy gremlins.