Ilhan Omar - A thread about her marriage and immigration history.

Read the link for yourself - its only a click away.

You know what the problem with small forums are?

People like you. I’m over here minding my own business passing time, and here you are dangling off my balls telling me to leave like you own the place, all angry & shit.

I’m very pleased to meet all of you, and you will be seeing more of me, so prepare yourself, or ignore me, but I’m not a “sock” and I’ve never posted on this forum before this OP.

Feel free to report me, or deal with it.

I guess I kinda feel like Omar. I’m like, a super DUPER victim surrounded by bigots.

Right back at ya. Post the relevant factual evidence from the article.

Fuck off, victim, and go cry your bitter tears elsewhere. You’re a joke.

If you don’t believe the arguments you are posting, why should anyone else?

Well, ok, if you insist.

Do your own homework or kindly stfu.

:rolleyes: To what end? Have you seen the amount of time I have spent on the Elections board “pretending”? It’s not just some pro forma comment I make occasionally. What would be the point of this “deep cover”? Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, get a grip.

And Kimstu, I am surrounded constantly by people (including members of my own family) who make that Chomsky/Zinn critique of American foreign policy even under Democratic administrations. Of course people have the right to make it – you know I am a strong advocate of freedom of speech – but I don’t want them in my party. I believe in having a big tent, but not to the point of including people who casually characterize the mainstream of the party in such slanderous terms.

You can want or not want whatever you please. But that doesn’t mean you’re entitled to misrepresent Omar’s remarks as a personal attack on Obama in particular, or to pretend that they’re somehow “slanderous” against other Democrats.

:rolleyes: :smack: Gosh, there I go again, unrealistically expecting you to abide by any criteria of truth or fairness in what you say about Omar. You have declared openly that because you oppose some of her positions you’re going to try to tarnish her reputation, by fair means and/or foul.

Of course you’re going to keep lying about what she said and meant, and about anything else that could possibly be used to discredit her, no matter how many times you’re corrected on the facts.

Already done, for my part. I’m getting too cranky to deal with these shitfuckers.

I don’t really care why you keep wrapping piles of shit in tobacco leaves, but you can’t trick me into smoking one.

My argument was not that King was happy or that he loved black people.

My argument was that the people on the same side of the political spectrum as King look at evidence like Congressional rebukes and having associations with known and generally accepted racists, and dismiss it all as hearsay and nonsense.

My assumption would be that you look at King and at the evidence that he made racist statements, that he was rebuked, and that he associates with known racists and find it reasonable to assume, from that genuine and obvious evidence that he’s a racist. You see that because you have no political blindfold that steers your brain away from considering these things in an impartial light.

But my assumption would also be that you acknowledge that there are partisans on the right who are blindfolded and who are steered away from being able to consider those pieces of evidence honestly.

Omar has tweeted exactly these words, “Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel.” She has been rebuked by Congress for antisemitism. She associates with known and generally accepted antisemites.

I always say that there’s a difference between knowing that something is true and believing that something is true.

Every smoker knows, for example, that they’re killing themselves. But then when they get cancer or their dad dies of lung cancer or whatever, suddenly it dawns on them, “HOLY SHIT! THIS STUFF IS KILLING ME!”, and they stop smoking.

There’s a step beyond simply being aware that something is possible and will personally affect you, where you recognize that you were just deluding yourself and imagining that somehow you were the special one who wouldn’t be affected.

You know that partisans can blind themselves to evidence.

If it’s all the same evidence on the right for King as we see for Omar, why is King guilty and Omar is innocent?

She was not rebuked for antisemitism. Faux outrage over her comments was channeled into congress condemning both antisemitism and anti-Muslim bigotry (and a bunch of other stuff). She voted for it. All Dems voted for it. Most Republicans voted for it.

Some of the Republicans who didn’t vote for it, didn’t vote for because they wanted it to be a rebuke of Ilhan Omar and this wasn’t one. They specifically said they voted against it because it didn’t name Omar.

“This is a sham cover vote designed to avoid dealing with a rogue member.” - Rep. Chip Roy (Tex.)

Here’s some other quotes…

“It’s not about her. It’s about these forms of hatred.” - Nancy Pelosi

“I feel confident that her words were not based on any anti-Semitic attitude.” - Nancy Pelosi

“We are tremendously proud to be part of a body that has put forth a condemnation of all forms of bigotry including anti-Semitism, racism and, white supremacy. Our nation is having a difficult conversation and we believe that is great progress.” - Ilhan Omar, et. al.

Also, this is bullshit.

Made up fake bullshit is not the same as real, actual, white supremacism out in the open over the course of years.

Funny, I would guess there’s more than a few people that think the same way about you…

Hello. Non-angry person here with some questions.

Thanks.

Steve King Quotes…

“I would ask you to go back through history and figure out where are these contributions that have been made by these other categories of people that you are talking about, where did any other subgroup of people contribute more to civilization? Than — than western civilization itself that’s rooted in western Europe, eastern Europe and the United States of America, and every place where Christianity settled the world.”

“We can’t restore our civilization with somebody else’s babies.”

“I’d like to see an America that’s just so homogenous that we look a lot the same.”

“I guess I’m going to have to go get some dirt from Mexico to grow the next batch. Well, yeah, there’s plenty of dirt. And it’s coming from the West Coast, too, and a lot of other places, besides. This is the most dirt we’ve ever seen.”

“White nationalist, white supremacist, Western civilization — how did that language become offensive?”

Probably has something to do with them being two different people and all.

Ah. There’s your problem.

I support mainstream DFLers/Democrats. I don’t attack them.

And that makes three, that I’m aware of, who have weak childish constitutions.