Any chance that one of them is older than the other by a bit?
Maybe, but I think they’re all pretty recent. They’re all more recent than Omar’s ‘hypnotize’ Tweet as far as I know.
Is this in any way relevant? If so, why?
I feel like you’re getting at something. Could you just come out and post it?
If they are recent, then that would be a fair rebuttal.
So, returning to the previous point, I would propose that you are human and that you are a Democrat who supports Ilhan Omar, by fiat of being part of the same team.
Do you have any particular reason to believe that you would somehow be immune to the same human condition which we both agree exists on the other side and have no reason to believe doesn’t exist in both sides?
So, Ilhan Omar is not friendly with an anti-Semitic organization, as designated by the FBI and at least one Liberal news organization (Medium)? :dubious:
It is not as simple as that.
One should ask here what peaceful pressure against Israel’s penchant to grab more territory from Palestine could be applied. In any case, B.D.S. is not really as important or influential as many opponents to it paints it to be for propaganda reasons, but this time it is propaganda against anyone that does think that what Netanyahu and buddies think it would be a good idea.
I meant to say: but this time it is propaganda against anyone that does think that Netanyahu and buddies grabbing more territory would not be a good idea.
Got a link for that?
CMC fnord!
I too would like to see a cite for the claim that Omar is “friendly with an anti-Semitic organization, as designated by the FBI”, partly because I honestly have no idea what “organization” is being referred to.
If it’s meant to indicate the BDS movement, I think “organization” is an odd choice of term. There are various formally constituted organizations that support the BDS movement, such as the Palestinian BDS National Committee, but I wouldn’t describe the BDS movement itself as an “organization”. So yeah, cite please.
I’ve a feeling that ‘FBI designated anti-Semitic organization’ is going to turn out to have a very loose definition.
CMC fnord!
If Omar dislikes the kind of secular and mostly progressive Jews you find in the US and on the Israeli left, that would truly be ugly anti-Semitism. But if she dislikes the genocidal ultra-orthodox Jews who wield a great deal of power in the current Israeli government, who could blame her?
I am happy to see Omar get tripped up by her fishy actions regarding her various marriages even if I don’t care about them on the merits, but I’m not willing to even obliquely seem to support Benjamin Netanyahu and his coalition of Iron Age theocrats.
BDS is not the organization of which I spoke.
Also not what I was referring to but…
Translation of the “about” for Jkbadawy, according to Google, “The street that Mustafa and the palace of the emirate did not # glory_for martyrs”.
https://www.voanews.com/africa/somalia-businesses-face-taxation-militants
It’s not a Terrorist Organization designation, but my read would be that they are saying that it’s a likely financial front for one (which targets Israelis) but outside of their legal reach. All they can do is warn people like Chuck Schumer to tell people to avoid them.
Um, that link is a letter from an FBI official in 2009—when Ilhan Omar was a 26-year-old college student—reporting that the FBI had severed its liaison relationship with the Council on American-Islamic Relations due to connections between CAIR and the “Palestine Committee”, and between the latter organization and Hamas. The author notes:
Given that CAIR (whatever the possible connections of some of its members or leaders with Muslim Brotherhood network organizations) is extremely active in advocating for civil rights of Muslim Americans, which is a valid area of common cause with Muslim Americans and civil-rights supporters in general, I think your trying to spin this as Ilhan Omar being “friendly with an anti-Semitic organization, as designated by the FBI” is a ludicrously weak accusation.
A fun retweet from Jkbadawy (translated to English by Google):
Bassam al-Sayeh planned and funded the drive-by shooting of an (former) American Jewish couple, who were in their car with their children.
So, umm, no link to the official FBI webpage that lists ‘anti-Semitic organizations as designated by the FBI’ then?
CMC fnord!
Given that ALL of those quotes come from the last two years, and don’t even include anything with the interview with Unzensuriert (a white supremacist website founded by an SS officer), I don’t see your point.
That said, having looked into the matter further, while I think it’s relatively likely that the FBI is still suspicious of the organization (at the highest level) and that this isn’t unfounded, it does seem to be the case that a whole slew of Democratic congress members (including, for example, Cory Booker) have all signed letters of endorsement for the group.
It also seems to be the case that the only real accusation against CAIR (that its founders specifically created it to raise money for Hamas) has a fairly easy-to-find defense statement circulated around the Internet, saying that this was in 1994, before Hamas turned radical and started to kill people. That argument doesn’t hold, since the discussion of Hamas by the founders has them referencing the organization by a codeword, “Samah”, which seems completely unnecessary if the group didn’t intend to commit crimes. Also, Hamas was founded with an explicit covenant of Jihad and started to kill people by no later than 1989. But, I could easily see someone buying the defense if they didn’t dig into the question deeper.
It is unreasonable, given how successful the group has been with courting Democratic congress members and given how easy it is to find the one defense, to attach Omar uniquely to the group minus any evidence that she has a particular relationship with the founders of the organization. I retract that particular concern.
On the one hand, YAYYYYYYYYYYY!!! On the other, Jesus fuck what loon is going to have the job next? Still though, YAYYYYYYYYYYY!!! We are, for the moment, slightly less likely to end up in a shooting war.
Which is about as good as it gets with this Administration.
Regards,
-Bouncer-
Just to be crystal clear, this,
is something you pulled out of your ass, correct?
CMC fnord!
Along with post #595. But at least he put some [del]code[/del] weasel words in there for everyone to see the caliber of his, let’s call it, thinking.