…except you usually skip the “concede the point” bit and go straight to the “smoothly pivot and tack to a different argument” part.
Said the liar.
Ahh, not a Republican ethical compass, no ethical compass at all, gotcha.
CMC fnord!
Uh, no you’re not. Literally the only time I’ve seen you support the CBC is this post, where you claim you support the CBC. Otherwise you ignore their members except when it’s time to attack them.
“Strong support” would look like having far more posts that support members than posts that attack members.
As for your noble claims of your own honesty? You’re the same idiot who on the same page declared that you’d be willing to lie about Omar if you supported her views. Nobody’s buying your claims about how honest you are, and maybe you shouldn’t make them so close to claims about how cavalier you are about lying.
Learn to read. I never advocated lying about Omar. I said it genuinely looks to me like she is covering up something, but something I don’t believe is any grave sin in and of itself. If it were Emmanuel Cleaver or William Lacy Clay, I wouldn’t pull at this thread because I don’t want to take them down. But I am, as you well know, pissed off at Omar. So if her pre-politics marriage shenanigans are now making things awkward for her, I am happy to do my part to increase the discomfort.
No lies involved.
ETA: If you’re referring to my saying I would help “sweep it under the rug” if I liked her, I did not mean by lying. Just by protesting “who cares what went on with her marriages, that’s her business”, stuff like that.
The real lie would be if I claimed that “it would be a grave and troubling ethical breach if she violated our immigration laws”, or some nauseatingly sanctimonious bullshit like that. I am being 100% honest about where I am coming from. It’s political hardball, nothing more or less.
(Underlining mine.)
Your moral compass is broken.
I don’t know what to say to you. Maybe go talk with an imaam or something.
Crowmanycloud’s calling you a Republican and observation of the similarities between these accusations and those used by Republicans against the Clintons and Obamas should give you pause.
Your contempt for "the squad” and your willingness to leverage rumors and lies to undermine them betrays a (contemporary) Republican attitude.
- Party over principles
- Status quo over progress
- Those who demand better from people in power are rabble rousers
- Those who fight for civil rights and equality must be stepped on
If the Democrats need the squad to remind them to be better than the Republicans, it’s not the squad that has the problem.
You are maliciously attempting to portray Omar’s marital history as “shenanigans” and encouraging other people to view it as “awkward” and discreditable, despite the fact that you have no actual evidence of her committing any illegal or unethical acts. Your attempts are motivated only by your (factually unsupported) suspicions about some unspecified “hinkiness” in her personal life, and your partisan dislike of her having criticized mainstream Democrats (although not in the way or to the extent that you obtusely insist on believing she has).
Surely you can see how your openly admitted and unjustified slimy smear “tactics” about Omar seriously impair your credibility when you indignantly claim that you wouldn’t actually lie about her. :dubious: Uh-huh, right.
You probably just imagine that being willing to lie about Omar while claiming not to be willing to lie about her will somehow score you some points in your imagined game of “political hardball” if you can persuade us to believe your claims. You’ve already admitted that you want to harm her politically and don’t care if your insinuations about her are true or not as long as they harm her. Why should anybody believe you when you pretend to care about some vaguely identified boundary between insinuation and outright lying?
(To save you the trouble of trying to come up with an answer to that, I’ll point out that it’s a rhetorical question. I for one don’t believe you when you pretend to care about drawing a distinction between insinuation and outright lying.)
It’s not political hardball. You are a political nonentity. It’s just shitty fantasizing on your part: “If I had any power or influence at all in the world, gee whiz would I sure be a badass!”
So still nothing about any actual wrongdoing?
Got it.
Holy shit dude, really? Why don’t you post this totally non-bigoted opinion on your crappy Twitter account?
Do you teach your children to denigrate and discriminate against strangers based on their religion? Or is this just another thing part of you recognizes is morally wrong, and so you don’t share it with them, but you still cling to it personally?
Perhaps he could get you in his head to let him know when an opinion is bigoted? Seemed to help some other poster.
I’ll gladly volunteer myself to take residence in anyone’s head who so desires.
I would take you up on that, but I just remembered you are the most dangerous person on this message board.
It’s true. It’s always the quiet ones.
I don’t know how you could actually be reading this thread and think I have any respect for religion or have any tolerance for the idea that being against religion (including being more disgusted by some religions than others) would be something I think (even “deep down”) is morally wrong. Not only are there abundant recent examples here of my contempt for religion, I have repeatedly made it clear in various threads that Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris, and Bill Maher are my heroes. Do I need to paint you a picture? :smack:
The second part is false. If you have sincerely misunderstood my posts this way, please cite whatever it is I said that led you to this misapprehension, and I will help you understand how you misread it.
So I guess the answer to my first question is “yes”. That’s a shame for your kids. Hopefully they’ll learn from other sources that bigotry is wrong.
Again, good for you!
But, Christians are not Christianity, Jews are not Judaism, and MUSLIMS ARE NOT ISLAM!
CMC fnord!
No, it’s not. You have admitted over and over that the only basis for your “suspicions” is an evidence-free “hunch” that there are some kind of “hinky” “shenanigans” in Omar’s marital history which you don’t think are even worth being concerned about on ethical grounds. You have absolutely zero evidence that your “hunch” or “suspicions” are actually true.
But you nonetheless want to get other people to believe in these unsupported allegations of “shenanigans”, also without any evidence, simply because you are hoping they’ll generate negative PR to damage Omar politically.
That definitely qualifies as not caring whether your insinuations are true or not as long as they harm her. If you cared whether they were true or not, you’d have scruples about encouraging other people to believe them without any evidence.
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And by the way, as I pointed out in post #443, your smug posturing about “political hardball” boils down to nothing more than this:
No, what you’ll do is spin some more lies about it. You can save yourself the trouble; I am tired of trying to take your disingenuous manipulative shitheelery seriously.
You misunderstood what my “hunch” was about. It was that the “hinkiness” is probably not that she married her brother (something I am now less confident of) but some other more mundane type of manipulation of green card laws that she is furiously trying to cover up. That she is acting like she has something very awkward and embarrassing to hide is not a hunch but an observation.
If I could place a wager and there were some kind of omniscience machine to settle it, I would bet everything I have that she is covering something up. It’s just that the thing she is covering up is likely not to be the type of thing I give a shit about in and of itself. But the fact that voters and the DFL are likely to care about it, and it could thus short-circuit her career, is something I care about.
Got it now?