I'm looking for rap music that's OK for a 10 year old.

[Marley23]

In regards to what marley said, maybe if you get outraged and give him a spanking for listening to relatively mild stuff, he won’t be interested in the more prurient stuff, if he is indeed testing boundries.

Making up an excuse to hit your kid sounds like fucking awful parenting. Anyway, the testing boundaries thing is about feeling mature, from my perspective, not some ‘searching for structure and discipline’ thing. How '50s.

Ms. Manners Saves Civilization

::shudder::

IIRC, her argument basically is that if you do as advised by marley, your child will keep going further until he hits your boundries of what is acceptable. Therefore, if you set your boundries clearly and forcefully, i.e. have a hairy cat-fit, over something more acceptable than what you want him to avoid he won’t be so inclined to pursue the more outrageous stuff.

Because kids always listen to their parents reasonably after they freak out. This is getting pretty tangential, but why not respect your kid’s intelligence and try talking to him about it?

[js_africanus]

*Originally posted by Marley23 *
Making up an excuse to hit your kid sounds like fucking awful parenting. Anyway, the testing boundaries thing is about feeling mature, from my perspective, not some ‘searching for structure and discipline’ thing. How '50s.

:rolleyes:

::shudder::

Let’s see, three lines of evidence, parents, psychologist, & a nationally recognized social commentator, all come to the same conclusion: Set boundries and let the kids understand that at some point the parent will become outraged by inappropriate behavior. In opposition you offer the same tired old shtick “respect your kid’s intelligence”. Not very convincing since the line of reasoning I related is in direct response to your tired shtick.

Not to mention the fact that in response to my remark you blanketly assert that dragongirl can’t even be bothered to talk to her son. You might want to ask if she tried talking to him about it before advising that she pursue such an obvious course.

[Marley23]

The “shudder” was at the idea of Ms. Manners Saving Civilization, that’s all.

I said nothing about what dragongirl can and can’t be bothered to do. I don’t know what she thinks of all this or what she’s leaning toward doing. What I was trying to address was the possible situations you brought up (spank him or throw a fit for listening to relatively mild music).

[gex_gex]

OK, I’ve tried, and tried, and here’s what I’ve come up with.

A.D.I.D.A.S. by Killer Mike and Big Boi.

It’s current, catchy, popular and musically good. Thematically…

OK, the whole song is about sex. But your kid gets a safe sex warning:

When I drill, I don’t spill, even if she’s on the pill
Keep my weapon covered, concealed, and in a shield
Cause I dont need that A-I-D-S
A D and an A missin’ out my ADIDAS
Plus, We don’t need no DNA mixin’ between us

It’s like Schoolhouse Rock for the new millenium.

And Big Boi also preaches tolerance of alternate sexualities, although his “natural” comment may not sit comfortably with some.

I’m a man and I demand a WO-man for that act
Personal preference cause I use the law of nature as a reference
No I don’t ever recall seein’ a man turn up pregnant
But that’s just me

I dunno… it suggests homosexual sex is “unnatural” but he acknowledges that’s only his view, and seems to be saying “live and let live.”

[sugaree]

*Originally posted by Marley23 *
**The “shudder” was at the idea of Ms. Manners Saving Civilization, that’s all. **

I love Miss Manners as much as I love mudf…I mean, Led Zep or the Beastie Boys. If you haven’t read her, she’s probably not writing about what you think she is.

I think that this discussion is really interesting, but it’s not what the OP wanted. If anyone wants to start either a debate or a poll on when kids should be allowed to listen, watch, or play various forms of bloody or sexy media, I’m game.