Yep. Exact same lyrics, and everything.
Yeah, in the book the Oompa Loompa sang songs. I mean, actually sang songs, not like in a musical where people sing songs but we pretend it’s normal, but the characters in the book.
The first movie was a musical, where Charlie and his Mom burst into song when discussing how depressed Charlie is because he’s a hideous 70s child actor, but it’s a musical song. The Oompa Loompas sing too, apparently as musical format songs because they include crappy 70s visual effects.
The Oompa Loompas in the new movie are singing, but they’re supposed to be really singing…like if I came into your house and started singing and dancing. Literally singing. And it’s deliberately ambigious whether Wonka set the kids up or if they just happened to fail. I agree that the lyrics were hard to understand, but they were the same lyrics as the book.
I know this post only makes sense because of the movie/broadway musical convention that people sing to each other but they’re not really singing, except sometimes they are. Like in “The Sound of Music”. Sometimes people are musical singing, and sometimes they’re supposed to be literally singing. Confusing I know.
I read somewhere (can’t remember where, sorry) that Augustus Gloop was not CGI, but just a really wierd looking kid.
Look, all I know is the 1970’s-issue Oompa Loompas gave me fucking nightmares. They freaked me the hell out. So you got sadistic wilder over here nochalantly incinerating the bad eggs, and these fucking satanic gnomes doing a creepy-as-all-fucking-get-out song-and-dance number over there, and I simply can’t understand a G rating. That flick was a fucking child-abuse-driven criminal psychodrama mixed with a bad acid trip and half a jug of castor oil.
A remake is like dripping sulfuric acid in my eyes, after poking them with a sharp stick. Bah, I say!
Or Lars von Trier’s Dancer in the Dark, where it’s all “movie musical” singing, except where they’re singing songs from The Sound of Music, and that one final gut-wrenching extemporized original song.
A CGI Gloop was used for the bit when he gets sucked up into the chocolate pipe. The rest of the time, his weird appearance was achieved with a practical effect. (ie; a fat suit.)
In fact, the lyrics the Oompa Loompas sing in the current film are taken directly from the book. They are Roald Dahl’s words.
My biggest complaint about remakes is that they then take all copies of the original lock them in a huge undeground cavern in some secret location (rumored to be in the Canadian Northwest Territoy) guarded by ancient spells, curses and a big boulder. Not to mention the federal statutes condemning one to death if they dare view the original version of a remake.
That’s odd, considering he wrote the screenplay and was heavily involved in the production of the 1971 version…
Guys, thanks for setting me straight on Charlie.
However, the original purpose of this thread is for me to rant about random things, and I have a few more to get off my chest. 
Sheep: I hate people who, having been born into a country in which they have books, internet, and other resources (not to mention a living environment without rampant diseases, looting and natural disaster for shit’s sake :rolleyes: ) never examine things. There’s a pit thread going about the suckers who go see the Crossing Over guy- I don’t pit him, I pit the type of sheep who never examine things and follow fucking scams.
There was a thread a while back asking for signs of when SD has ‘jumped the shark’, and someone ventured that we would if we ever reaced a point where we like the people here enough to not require them to cite any facts if they claim the existence of any god or the truth of their religion. Sorry, guys, but we’ve already reached that point, and I pit that- the fact that there are ever any times that (I won’t provide a link) members here allowed liked members to spout some bullshit in GD stating their religions as fact.
This site is about exposing lies, bullshits, and scams, not falling for them. All the intelligent and literate folks on this site who choose to believe in their religion and hand it down should be ashamed- they don’t have the ignorant sheep excuse. 
He was angry because the screenplay was heavily rewritten. Apparantly that’s why they never made the sequel in to a movie.
Sorry, I should say his screenplay.
Welcome to the 70’s baby!! I think if they weren’t trying to pour hippie ideals like Free to be You and Me down our throats they were trying to scare us kids to death with horrible images. I remember watching things like The red balloon, The steadfast Tin soldier, The little match girl, and the horrifying Neighbours on film days. The link to all of these films are the damned depressing endings and the lead charcters die… The tin soldier is melted down with his ballarina, the baloon is stoned to death by rotten kids, the little match girl freezes to death on christmas, and both neighbours destroy each other and the damned flower they fought over!
Then for educational purposes we watched films where they taught us about accidents first the film I rememebr showed old silent film slapstick and followed it with a woman washing the dishes and slicing open her hand because she didn’t pay attention… that was kindergarten.
I’m not sure what they were trying to teach us… But when people ask me why I’m so dark I can point to the wonderful folks at the Toronto school board in the 1970s.
Enough about Charlie- how about the new ranting I’ve done above?
OK, sheep - if everyopne stopped being sheep, wouldn’t they still be sheep…if ya get my drift? It’s a catch-22!!
The screenplay that he wrote was a straight-forward adaptation of the book. The studio had some ideas of their own, and so they brought in David Seltzer to work it over.
By the time they were finished tweaking it, it was a musical, and the character of Willy Wonka was about 180 degrees from Dahl’s Wonka. Most of Wonka’s dialogue was tossed out altogether and replaced with literary quotes of various degrees of obscurity, many of which were complete non-sequiturs. Oh, and the Slugworth subplot was added. (I like the Slugworth subplot well enough, myself, but Dahl didn’t, because he felt it changed Grampa Joe’s and Charlie’s characters too much.)
I think the main objection was the liberties taken with the dialogue, the introduction of non-Oompa-Loompa musical numbers, and the replacement of the sublime Oompa-loompa lyrics with infantile doggerel, which had to sting.
[Rosie Grier]It’s alright to cryyyy, crying gets the saaad out of you…[/RG]
[Loopylad]Mommy…please make the bad man stop…please, mommy, please…[/Loopylad]
Enough about Charlie- I pit people who keep taking a thread in the direction they want to w/o heeding the wishes of the forgotton OP.
There was an OP?
People will always talk about whatever’s remotely related that happens to be the most interesting.
Or pie.