I'm reading the Dark Tower series (spoilers as I go)

I read that just now on Wikipedia.

I just opened two of my hard-cover Harry Potter books…and I’m not seeing it at all. I held them right up to my Wolves of the Calla(also hardcover) and I just don’t see it. Similar maybe, but with significant differences. The “S” in the Potter books has little tales on the ends, while the Wolves one is just normal.

Am I missing it?

Nevermind. It’s the “Part” titles between sections, not the chapter titles.

Yeah, it is the same font.

I was. I started the series about a year before book 4 came out. I read the whole thing once or twice again in between books, and when I got to Wolves…I wasn’t even mad. I was just confused. I couldn’t understand why this was the book that King had decided he just had to publish after his accident. It didn’t make sense to me.

I liked it ok, but felt/feel that it is a filler book setting up book 6. I really like book 6, but I sort of wish book 5 hadn’t happened.

Wow, book 6 is short.

I love that they thickened the paper quality to make it look as long as the previous book. It’s 400 pages including the afterword, as opposed to 700.

I’m 20% done in a just over an hour or so.

No thoughts yet. Mia/Susannah/Detta are in 1999 NY. That is all.

So, let me get this straight. According to Mia:

  1. The Oracle that Roland slept with took his seed in as a female demon.

  2. Then, it pumped that seed into Susannah during the drawing of Jake. This was the same demon, then?

Weird…very weird.

Just started Book 7.

Through Part 1(the little crimson king) of Book 7.

  • I’m glad they are reunited. I was not a big fan of them being separated across time. Hopefully, they can get down to business and pursue the Dark Tower again.

Wow.

Randall Flagg was killed by the son of Susannah? Wow. If that is truly his end, that was unexpected for me.

It was well done, but massively surprising. Also, I could tell Stephen King shoved a bunch of quick back-story on Walter/Flagg in the final pages of his life.

I liked it, but wow, that was a shocker.

Some of the books were better than others, but I thought it was worth it to go to the end.

Also, I fell in love with Oy. Never have I wanted a fictional being to be real as much as I wanted an Oy of my own!

Me too. He is a key hero in the series. Roland would have never found Jake in Lud without his help.

I am loving the last book so far. Jake and Eddie are dead and Stephen King has been rescued from death.

Roland just received his cross and watch from Susannah’s relatives. It’s really been a very good book.

I’m glad I read Insomnia a long time ago, by the way. Looks like it is a key book.

I FINISHED!

Thoughts in the next thread and this whole thread is now spoiler “open”.

Thoughts:

  1. Loved the final book. Best one in the series and a very satisfying ending.

  2. I don’t think knowing that Roland will repeat his journey affected my enjoyment of it.

  3. Loved that Susannah found Eddie, Jake, and eventually Oy in the alternate world. Very happy ending and I like it.

Questions:

  1. What was the point of Mordred? He just gets killed…quickly…like that. Weird subplot.

  2. The Horn of Eld. At what point in Roland’s life did he lose it? When did we read about that? Wizard and Glass?

  3. How would having the horn make his next trip more successful? What is the significance of it?

YaY! I’m glad you ended up liking it to the end. I waited until they were all out before I ever picked up the first one. What an amazing story and amazing worlds he created. I liked that we got to see Father Callahan from Salems’ Lot and other characters from other books woven in.

He lost it at the Battle of Jericho Hill, which is mentioned a few times. It doesn’t actually happen in the books, but it’s where he lost his original ka-tet, Cuthbert, Alain, and Jamie.

I forget if the Horn has any special properties, but the implication is that if he has the Horn this time when he didn’t before, then maybe he’s not doomed to an infinite cycle. From there, there’s a lot of possible interpretations, but my favorite one is that during the journey he embarks on at the end of the series, there’s three Beams in existence rather than just two, and eventually he’ll have restored them all.

It’s a hell of a series, isn’t it? Even when King’s writing suffered, it’s still engrossing as hell.

I’m glad you enjoyed the books. I wasn’t to happy with the ending at first. But, I realized after reading it again that: 1) I was warned to stop reading at a certain point and to just be happy that Roland made it to the tower and gained entrance and 2) The cycle was the only way it could have ended.

Now I wish he would do a story about the Tet Corporation.:smiley:

Also, like I said before you should pick up a copy of The Road To The Dark Tower By Bev Vincent.

No special properties, just special significance. I see it as Roland coming closer and closer (or needing to come closer and closer) to being a more empathetic person, and each cycle gains a little more humanity. Each “resurrection” he’s becoming a better person, and thus more worthy of restoring the Tower.

So, at the moment he left it, he did not place enough value on humanity and relationships? When did this occur in the books?

Don’t you think that was his constant struggle? From abandoning Jake to die in the first book, Roland’s story is a constant one of learning to place value on his ka-tet - not just as tools to get him to the Tower and then be discarded, but beyond that.

Uh, I get that. I wasn’t clear.

I mean: When did he leave the horn behind? What book was that in?