I would have misgivings.
Joe
I would have misgivings.
Joe
When I lived on the equator we bought meat from the supermarket. Just saying.
If you ate zebras past their prime, you might be more ethical. If you ate cute little baby seals you’d be less ethical - and confused about how they got to the equator.
Not if you lived in the Galapagos.
**Imagine that you live in the equator… **
Do I have a refrigerator? Is this urban visitor bringing beer?
If my visitor has been hiking the equatoral rain forest all day with meat he bought at Safeway, neither of us are going to want to eat it.
He will have to eat my fresh kill, and he had better bring beer.
…live at the Equator…
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Judges would also have accepted “on the Equator”.
Then you’d just be confused about where the zebras come from.
Yes.
Nature can be horribly cruel, just watch any wildlife show where an innocent zebra or wildebeest is having a quiet drink at a waterhole when a crocodile lunges and grabs the poor thing and chows down. They don’t die instantly, it can take several minutes for the prey to choke or drown.
But then keeping animals in small confined spaces, feeding them food that wouldn’t be part of their natural diet, breeding them so that their ‘prime cuts’ become more pronounced, “pumping them full” of drugs, then herding them into a slaughterhouse where they can see and hear their herd mates being butchered, isn’t very nice either.
Then again they are animals and the question of how aware they are of the pros and cons of their life will probably never be answered - it’s doubtful that the Aberdeen Angus herd along the road from me are chewing the cud and cursing their fate and wishing they were on the savannah running free with the gazelles.
Are you standing next to someone? Is his name Tom? Did he just drop his toothpaste? ![]()
Isn’t chasing an animal to death still killing it?
But I do agree that without tools physical conflict with a wild animal would be more likely to leave you wounded or worse.
Seriously? Show me a cite that an animal will literally drop dead after a chase. The article you linked to didn’t say so, unless I missed it. In fact, it skips the whole issue of how a chased animal dies. I will certainly admit an exhausted animal is easier to kill than an energetic one, and perhaps, if I had a spear, I could just stab it and let it bleed to death. But according to the OP, I don’t have a spear.
This reminded of a quote from My Cousin Vinnie.
Mona Lisa Vito: “Imagine you’re a deer. You’re prancing along, you get thirsty, you spot a little brook, you put your little deer lips down to the cool clear water… BAM! A fuckin bullet rips off part of your head! Your brains are laying on the ground in little bloody pieces! Now I ask ya. Would you give a fuck what kind of pants the son of a bitch who shot you was wearing?”
Most (IIRC) slaughterhouses in the US are designed so they can’t see others being slaughtered, for just that reason.
Fair enough.
I misread the article and thought that the first thrust was entirely ceremonial, that the animal had died first.
Also, I bought hook line and stinker the but about riding horses to death our dogs running to the point of taking over from heat exhaustion/stroke.
I would say, “Hey, Mr. Random Person, we be the dominant creature on this shitpile you call Earth, and we eat whatever we want. Got ketchup?”
Rodents, rabbits and the like? If you live on the coast, there’s all sorts of shellfish and stuff. And fish in the rivers can be “tickled”.
Yes. I just want to point out there has never existed a human society that didn’t use fire and stone tools, as they predate Homo sapiens sapiens by a million or a couple million years. Humans have evolved physically and mentally into what they are because of the use of fire and stone tools. So I wouldn’t say even the strictest definition of the word “natural” rules out basic technology. We suck at toolless survival, because it is as “unnatural” for us to try to cope that way as it is for a Siberian tiger to survive de-clawed and shaven. This is why the hypothetical in the OP is contrived beyond belief.