In *A Knight's Tale,* why are there two different victory scenes back to back? (open spoilers)

A Knight’s Tale was on TV this evening, so I thought I’d watch it - not so much for the movie as a whole, but because various assorted performances and pieces within it are enjoyable.

But I was reminded of a detail that puzzles me every time I watch the movie - in the final jousting scene, William, somewhat inexplicably, yelling his own name, faces Count Adhemar and unhorses him in the jousting - Adhemar tumbles backward off his horse, landing face-up, minus his helmet, and for some reason floating or suspended a foot off the ground, then the camera switches to his view and William’s entourage appear one by one, looking down to deliver his own catchphrase back to him.
Then immediately afterward, we’re back to William and Adhemar charging at one another on horseback, William again yelling his own name; William unhorses Adhemar and he tumbles in a slightly different way, landing face-down in the sand, helmet still on. The crowd goes wild.

We clearly aren’t supposed to think these are two separate jousting charges, because being unhorsed loses you the contest; Adhemar is down, William is victorious. So what’s occurring here? Did they just film two different variations, then decide they were both too good to leave out? Is the first one supposed to be a dream sequence? I’m not sure if I am questioning the story or the production.

The scene, at the spot:

I think that that’s what’s going through Adhemar’s head as he’s flying off his horse. That’s also why he appears to be floating for that scene.

This is exactly right. It’s an impressionistic representation of the villain’s realization of his failure, because otherwise the contact-and-fall of the realistic joust would be fast and dramatically unsatisfying. This stretches it out for added audience enjoyment.

The fact that the fall itself is inconsistent between shots is immaterial. Lots of movies stitch together conflicting takes for aesthetic effect. One that leaps immediately to mind is the coffee cup crashing to the floor three different ways at the end of The Usual Suspects.

Movies are movies and operate by movie rules. That’s all it is.

My friend, dramatic licence allows for linear gaps and discontinuity. Plus this way we get to see the baddie get hit twice! Ha! POW! Smugly told off. Rewind, replay, POW!

I’m a simple man.

ETA: Also Adhemar NEEDS to be unhelmeted for long drawn out snark-fest to work. It would not be as juicy/cathartic if he was still masked with his powerful and intimidating helmet hiding his truly confused/scared face.

Completely agreed.

That said, the fact that, after that moment, the film seems to “back up” to the moment of contact, might be a bit confusing (as it apparently was to the OP), but from a filmmaking standpoint, was likely put in there to remind viewers of what had just happened.

Thanks - yeah, that makes sense. I suppose I sort of got it, but the scene seemed a bit too literal (William et al appearing from the side of frame rather than floating heads as for example the family members insulting Kevin in Home Alone).

The bright crossfade should have tipped me off. I missed that.

God did It.

He really wanted the Bad Guy to know how badly he’d misread the entire situation, so He even re-wound time by a few seconds to rub it in his face.

If you’ve seen the TV series “The DIplomat”, you’ll know that this guy learned no lessons at all!

Also The Illusionist

Oddly, the idea was NOT to unhorse your foe, but to simply him him square on so that your lance broke.

But unhorseing is more cinegraphic.

Also that weighed in the scale and found wanting is a biblical reference-

Mene mene tekel upharsin. Daniel 5:25

  • Mene: God has counted the days of your kingdom and brought it to an end
  • Tekel: You have been weighed on the scales and found wanting
  • Upharsin: Your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians

What does God need with an Omega 13?

In the movie (which I think we can assume does not perfectly reflect history) it is stated as:

A match is three lances.
One point is given for breaking a lance between the waist and neck.
Two points for breaking on the helmet. It’s difficult - the helmet sweeps back. Most blows glance off.
Three points for bearing a rider to the ground.
Also, if you bear a rider to the ground, you win his horse.

I wonder what happens in that system where, in the first two lances, the black knight breaks a lance on the white knight’s helmet, then in the third lance, the white knight bears the black knight to the ground. Black knight: 4, white knight: 3-and-a-horse. Who is the winner?

You bite your tongue! They did very much perform David Bowie music at formal dances in that time period.

And really happened.

Jean Froissart, Chronicles of England and France

Grand Tournament at London in 1390

You would have seen on the ensuing morning, Monday, squires and varlets in different parts of London, furbishing and making ready armour and horses for their masters who were to engage in the joust. In the afternoon, king Richard entered Smithfield magnificently accompanied by dukes, lords, and knights, for he was chief of the tenants of the lists. The queen took her station as on the preceding day, with her ladies, in the apartments that had been prepared for her. The count d’Ostrevant came next, with a large company of knights and squires fully armed for tilting; then the count de Saint Pol and the knights from France.

The tournament now began, and every one exerted himself to the utmost to excel: many were unhorsed, and more lost their helmets

Also, overheard in an office at Netflix headquarters…

Casting: So we’ve got this docu-drama in the works, about Prince Andrew and…
Rufus Sewell’s Agent: <interrupts>

It turns out that the young page was actually an alien sent here to destroy mankind.

It was very strange seeing him in that scene, I had a moment of “I know that guy…hmm…” before it clicked!

He also became an Obergruppenfuhrer when the Nazis conquered America at the end of WW2.

(I watched Knight’s Tale years ago, long before either Man in the High Castle or The Diplomat, so I never knew that was him until you pointed it out!)

If the white knight is still able to compete after not one, but two lance-shattering blows right in the face, he’s clearly a cheating superhuman, and doesn’t deserve to win.