And seriously, what’s to stop me from building a pool of mercury in Libertaria? Mercury is a natural element, it’s my property, and I’ll have the coolest pool parties in town. Who’s gonna stop me? What are you gonna do? Regulate a naturally occurring element?!
Besides, I’ll buy contamination insurance too, so when it leaks into the ground, and ends up in yours and all my neighbor’s water and soil, I’ll be just fine.
Your “logic” is non-functional. You are wrong. Regulations that mandate mask use by the public would not reduce influenza death. Continuing to argue that they would “just because” is simply foolish.
You are effectively making libertarianism look foolish here.
… just because you say so.
Most probably local government regulations would.
Tyranny!!!
We observed significant reductions in ILI during weeks 4-6 in the mask and hand hygiene group, compared with the control group, ranging from 35% (confidence interval [CI], 9%-53%) to 51% (CI, 13%-73%), after adjusting for vaccination and other covariates. Face mask use alone showed a similar reduction in ILI compared with the control group, but adjusted estimates were not statistically significant. Neither face mask use and hand hygiene nor face mask use alone was associated with a significant reduction in the rate of ILI cumulatively.
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Cool. Hand hygiene should be similarly legislated.
Did it reduce the death rate of influenza by 50%?
No?
Cite fail.
It reduced infection rate by up to 50%. You reduce the infection rate, you reduce the death rate.
Terr, your cite says that the facemask using group was not different in ILI rate from the control group.
I admit that with your last assertion and your presentation of evidence against your own assertion, I’ve lost track at this point about the direction of your argument and its relevance.
But the facemask+hand hygiene group showed 30-50% reduction. As I said, that just shows that hand hygiene should be legislated as well. You know, “if it saves just one life”…
Oh and I forgot - children! What about the children? If you’re against the mask/handwashing legislation, that means you want children to die.
What Terr is trying to get across here is that,* if you regulate anything, you should regulate everything. And since regulating everything would be bad, no regulations would be best!*
It’s not what you call a reasonable framing of the issue. In fact it’s pretty darn shitty. But since arguing logically for this is impossible, he has to divert the issue to random nonsense, like legislating face masks for the populace.
That way, if he wins the random nonsense argument (by stamina) then he can try to sideways suggest he won the overall argument.
This doesn’t make the failed ideology of Libertarianism look like anything but a shambles of assertions and wishful thinking.
…Second verse, same as the first!..
Bring on the next failed ideology…
Nice summary.
It’s almost comical to watch.
I think this thread actually got us somewhere:
Local and federal governments are a must.
Taxation, excising, volunteering and/or charity is a must.
Insurance is a must to curb financial ruin against forces out of your control.
Regulations set by the government are a must to prevent socio-economic disaster and pollution.
Certain behaviors and activities must be decreed illegal so any breach of the above by an individual can be penalized.
Unchecked and unbalanced power leads to a society that resembles Stephen King’s The Stand.
Freedom must be balanced with morals or you end up a libertarian.
What did I miss?
Don’t do anything, because you might cause a tornado to suddenly appear on the other side of the world.
LOL. Not like I expected to change your mind. You keep clinging to the “the Big Daddy government knows better than the little people what’s good for them” doctrine.
Really, it’s very simple. Of, by and for. That’s all you need to understand.
Of, by and for.
The scientists working at the CDC sure as hell know a lot more about disease transmission than you do at any rate.
And you just used “LOL”. This is sad. I am now free to discount anything you say.
Yep. And they say that it gets transmitted by sneezing and coughing. Which is exactly what I said.
No, you claimed:
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You are wrong.