But didn’t you say rights were inalienable?
Let’s look at thought. Either rights are not inalienable, or there’s certain actions that are implied consent to waive rights. Which is it?
And it would not provide any services that the majority didn’t want. Do minorities have any rights in Libertopia?
Mafia is an organization. You’d be shot by an individual for trying to steal from him.
But if everyone is paying for their own guards, doesn’t it boil down to who has the bigger private army?
Ahh, I get it, just like the Mafia.
So it’s ok to steal from organizations?
By violation of others’ rights you’re giving yours up. Your argument is tautological, of the “can an omnipotent being create an immovable object” variety.
You can never have the biggest private army. Especially if there are several smaller ones that can join together against you.
No, but you’ve seemed to have redefined the word “inalienable” so as to make it meaningless.
Why wouldn’t it? It would provide the services for the minority if the minority paid for them.
Non-sequitur.
By definition, there’s a biggest private army.
Until there is one bigger or several smaller ones join up against you.
Not really. The point was that taking revenge upon people who commit crimes against you is mafia-like. You’re insisting it isn’t if it’s an individual taking revenge.
Then that’s the biggest. This isn’t really a difficult concept.
If the minority couldn’t pay as much as the majority, would they still get equal rights?
Mafia’s “taking revenge upon people who commit crimes against it” is a secondary and insignificant characteristic. Its primary characteristic is committing crimes and extortion against people who would just want to be left alone. Kinda like “Fear” in the stealing from others situation.
Until a bigger one is there or several smaller ones join up. So what’s the point again?
We’re not talking about “rights”. We’re talking about services. Individual services, to be precise. So the “minority” would be one person. So would the “majority” be.
Yes or no if you violate others rights you agree to waive your rights?
Yes. Now - can an omnipotent being create an immovable object?
I have noticed that other Libertarians dropped out of this conversation once Terr started getting specific about Libertarianism. Do you others agree with the points being made here?