Based on that I can’t stand wypipo either. And I know what kind of person that is.
But I do hope I don’t see the slur “kwyjibo” thrown around casually on the board.
ETA: To get back to the bright line discussion, as someone who has had to enforce bright line rules at Wikipedia and on other boards where I was a mod, they can have their place but there are major downsides. One is that a person may figure out how to cause the same disruption a rule was meant to prevent by not quite breaking the rule as written but definitely breaking it in spirit. (Basically exploiting a loophole.) The flip side is that it might force you to punish absolutely benign behavior that technically violates the rule. It takes away the ability for a mod to use their judgment in a particular situation and can force them into bad responses because their hands are tied.
Exactly. It was used by upper class, wealthy white Southerners to demean poor whites. African-Americans adopted the term, but unlike ofay and whitey, they didn’t originate it. If you’re really curious about the toxic interplay between upper class whites, lower class whites, and African Americans in Southern history, I recommend W.J. Cash’s The Mind of the South. Or any history of the Populist Party in late 19th - early 20th century Georgia.
In my experience, ‘cracker’ is used jocularly and sometimes with pride, like ‘redneck’. It has always meant a stereotypically southern white person (to me at least). Rich, poor, doesn’t matter, so long as the person isn’t a Yankee.
Okay, but the argument is that it should be moderated as a racist slur. If it’s a classist slur, there’s even less justification for moderating it. As I was trying to not say to Do_Not_Taunt, class slurs aren’t against the rules in the Pit.
Max, if you look, you can find examples of people who aren’t insulted by a term that is generally considered a racist slur. That doesn’t mean it isn’t a racist slur in some contexts.
Context matters. Intention matters. How many times do we have to repeat this?
On the one hand, DA was pretty clearly using it in a racist context. On the other hand, it was in this bizarre shitty little fantasy of his, in which he imagined another poster’s relatives using it, and it’s such a weird edge-case usage that I can see not wanting to moderate it. “I’m imagining your black relatives, and I’m imagining your racism, and I’m imagining them noticing your racism, and I’m imagining them calling you racist names. Ha ha!”
It may be possible for an insult to be too incompetent to moderate.
Is sharing a 50-year-old commercial in which Chinese people perpetuate – and then mock – a terrible Chinese stereotype the equivalent of telling a racist joke?
So as I stated earlier, it’s left to the absolute discretion of each mod and their personal opinions. There is no clear guidance given to the posters, until we step afoul of the personal opinion of a particular mod.
This is not rule-lawyering. I want guidance as to the acceptable standards. And the answer seems to be it depends on the personal views of each mod, individually.
“Cracker” is a racial slur in some forums, for some mods, and will trigger mod action.
“Cracker” is not a racial slur in other forums, for other mods, even when being used as a racial insult aimed at another poster, and will not trigger any mod action.
No, the rule in the Pit reads “Some slurs are likely to be viewed as hate speech when used as insults, some aren’t.” It isn’t saying a particular phrase is or is not a slur, it is implying only some slurs will be modded as hate speech in the Pit.
Right, but as a moderator, I have to consider the ramifications of my rulings in more than just the immediate context.
That’s great for you, but that’s not going to make me feel like any less of an asshole when there’s another George Floyd, and I get to be the guy who reminds people that they need to center the feelings of white people in their expressions of grief.
I was just amused by the dual references to the same 50 year old advert.